Roland

When you watch the news they report it as though the information they are giving you is the gospel truth and the news they are reporting has come from one of they're nearest colleges and most reliable sources.

The truth is they just get fed information through centralized news agencies the information is given to a team turned into a story and then read by the presenter in the form of a scrip but repoted as though it is correct, checked and factual.

Realistically no one genuilly knows where the information comes from and it looks in this paticualar case the information was already written to be sent out and got sent out a bit early.

Believe me this all came as a bit of a shock to me. But i'm not going to hide from it or stay in my little sheltered world if there are those capable of committing and organizing the unthinkable we'd all best start asking questions and not excepting poor excuses.

As for to what purpose. The main to justify a war in the middle east and get control of oil. The dollar as a currency is in serious trouble the only thing that gave it real or any value in the global market was they fourced oil to be traded in it. Both Iraq and Iran were going to start dealing oil in the Euro if that had happened no one would want or need the dollar America would be worthless.

There is more to this but i'll leave that for now.

Harbinger

So how can a reasonably sensible poster like you turn out to be a complete loon?

Journalists make mistakes, the truth can get distorted and God knows i have been on the wrong end of it often enough, but invent 9/11? Sorry but if that is your theory you are planily nuts.

Roland

Journalists make mistakes they don't accurately predict the future.

If that were the only strange occurance of that whole day i'd let it slip but the list just goes on and on.

So I'm a complete loon for asking questions that need to be asked. Let's get a bit of prospective when Bill Clinton had his little affair the investigation cost $50 million the 9/11 commission report were allocated $5 million.

After the Lockerbie airline bombing the little pieces of the plane were picked up taken to fault Halsted in kent where the plane was reassembled and a proper investigation started compared against the pentagon attack where the very next day members of the public were asked to help clean up the mess.

Have a good look at all the video footage of the pentagon. The most amazing thing is this building one of the most secure in the world surrounded by cctv and yet they will not release any descent video of the plane hitting the building.

I could go on and on and on at the end of the day it's up to you to either have a look at all the evidence available and there is a mountain of it. Ranging from engineers to airline pilots and it's even being discussed in the japanies parliament, members of the UN the list again goes on.

At first it was just the usual conspiracy crowd now it's people of the highest level and senior positions.

a swansong 4 europe

I can understand harbinger(of doom)'s amusement, but if the likes of UKIP are so insignificant and unimportant, then why waste your breath in trying to recruit a "bunch of no hopers"? Really, what does that say for your priorities?

You should spend more time in trying to convince the general public that the Tories are not going to shaft this country (again) on the economy, immigration, Europe, defence, and any other area that the CONservative Party is capable (and able) to screw up in.

It is nice of course to read one's little amusing quips, but to actually believe that UKIP - or more importantly, it's supporters - are so desperate to join the good ship TiCameronTanic, is verging on the incredulous.

No doubt those that believe we can exit the EU should actually think that staying is is a good idea and the 'patriotic' thing to do, just like the Tory-Lab-LibDem merchants of national doom seem to think.

Jeez, if only life was THAT simple, as opposed to the mindset of our opponents!

Harbinger

Discrepancies in a story which unfurled in such a dramatic and chaotic way do not make it false.

Holocaust denyers rely on such absurdities.

Wise up

You are all voters, at least those of you capable of writing X

Smidgey

Why do it as a group when you can do it solo?

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Roland

Do you get paid to write this **** on here. What exactly is it that i've said that has anything to do with "Holocaust deniers". What is it with people who run out of a good argument start trying to put the opposition in a category with another bunch of people who have absolutely noting to do with anything said.

Your a fraud.

B.A.Ware

Please stick to the topic or this thread will be locked

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Harbinger

Your argument and credibility ran out when you started claiming fact was fiction.

Roland

As the moderator says we're off the subject so I'll make this my last comment on this thread.

Thats for those who have followed all the threads and posts to decide not you.

Maybe people disagree with me that's they're choice.

As for credibility I hardly think you've got a strong following.

The rise of Hitler was in many ways due to his and his followers manipulation of the media through what is known as propaganda. In this day and age we believe we are free of such media manipulation. The beauty of propaganda is no one realize it's propaganda if the public when watching the news were to think it was reporting an agenda rather than the news then propaganda would be useless. The viewer must believe it's real.

I'll leave you with one clip that will prove to any one with even the slightest ability think for themselves which I fear you may not posses that the media is controlled and certainly not interdependent.

To me this little protest regardless of different individuals views of the EU is what can only be described as news but yet it never made to the best of my knowledge even a late night slot on channel 4 news. Surely a media that loves a scandle would jump on a story like this but yet never did it never even got a mention.