Beauty and the beast...

Aardvark · 15-05-2008, 06:53 PM

...but as we all know 'leadership is not a popularity contest', hence democracy being a popularity contest never produces leaders.

The leaflet is a disaster. It says plainly and clearly that UKIP does not pay attention to detail. I would sack the 'proof' reader.

Why can we not recruit a single literate or numerate person to check our leaflets?

If you think that 'EU policies are closing Post Office - Put a stop to it!' is good English then you went to a cr@p school. I don't know what the writer is trying to say, but think it is either:

'EU policies are closing post offices - put a stop to them!'

or

'An EU policy is closing post offices - put a stop to it!'.

Post offices is plural and not capitalised, IMHO, whilst it's either a policy or policies with a matching subsidiary clause.

In fact it's not quite right as everyone who has the latest Private Eye will know. The Germans and Dutch aren't implementing the directive until 2013. It is, yet again, the UK government who are gold plating the directive and leading the rest of the EU in its implementation. Blame the Labour cabinet! (Imperative correctly used.)

The fortnightly refuse collections are not billed as such; normal waste is collected one week, recyclables the next. They are not universal - both my recycled material and my waste are collected weekly as the decision lies with the local council. The decision is made by the local council, in conjunction with their contractors, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU.

Again the decision to incinerate excess waste lies with local (county) councils, although there is pressure through landfill taxes. It is possible to hit EU led recycling targets, which we would probably retain even if we left the EU, by good management. We can't blame poor management on the EU when it is down to our own local authorities.

Stopping mass EU immigration is laudable, but ask the French, Portuguese, Italians or Spanish about the millions of Brits who have bought land and homes in their countries and have forced up property prices so that many rural areas no longer have a native population. Robert Kilroy-Silk (Spain), Godfrey Bloom (France), UKIPMan (France), George Galloway (Portugal), both of my brothers (Germany) and hundreds of thousands of others are typical of first or second home owners. If we remove the right to settle or work can we be certain that the other countries will not dump 1 million disgruntled and homeless pensioners on our doorsteps? I thought the policy was more sensibly presented as 'one in, one out'.

It's a simple leaflet aimed at the lowest common denominator and is lighthearted, but will not win votes, IMHO.

BASILDON BOY · 15-05-2008, 07:25 PM

Anyone forming a queue to give Nattras a poke?

You would need a bag to put over his head...

...perhaps two bags in case his one fell off?

He has a fine pair of baps!

eublues · 15-05-2008, 08:11 PM

The leaflet could have been very good and got attention from people and the media.

On the matter of the number of British people living in Spain, Portugal and so on, that is (or should be) a matter for the people of Spain, Portugal, etc.

In Spain UK ex-pats were welcomed long before Spain was in the EU, presumably because Brits brought wealth in, stimulated development, and didn't take jobs from the locals.

Alex McKee · 15-05-2008, 08:41 PM

This is just too bad to be a real UKIP leaflet surely?

Anthony Butcher · 15-05-2008, 08:57 PM

Is this a leaflet or a poster? Have many been distributed? Any feedback from the public yet? It is very hard to judge what will appeal to people in advance.

BASILDON BOY · 15-05-2008, 08:57 PM

It makes me moist...

...I have issues...

...I really do need some serious help!

mkpdavies · 15-05-2008, 09:44 PM

Sorry guys, but this is **** poor. Are you really putting this through doors?

If so, I expect a record low result for UKIP.

steve fowler · 15-05-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SponPlague

It's Nikki's idea. Mike and co. are annoyed that the beauty party candidate was the only one getting real coverage...

Well Nikki's idea is BAD! this makes us like a joke!!!.

mattyr2k8 · 15-05-2008, 10:19 PM

That leaflet will be more likely to lose votes than gain them :\

fordtit · 15-05-2008, 10:27 PM

B****y Hell! His head is too small for the body! Is this leaflet really being sent out?

15-05-2008, 06:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,928	...but as we all know 'leadership is not a popularity contest', hence democracy being a popularity contest never produces leaders. The leaflet is a disaster. It says plainly and clearly that UKIP does not pay attention to detail. I would sack the 'proof' reader. Why can we not recruit a single literate or numerate person to check our leaflets? If you think that 'EU policies are closing Post Office - Put a stop to it!' is good English then you went to a cr@p school. I don't know what the writer is trying to say, but think it is either: 'EU policies are closing post offices - put a stop to them!' or 'An EU policy is closing post offices - put a stop to it!'. Post offices is plural and not capitalised, IMHO, whilst it's either a policy or policies with a matching subsidiary clause. In fact it's not quite right as everyone who has the latest Private Eye will know. The Germans and Dutch aren't implementing the directive until 2013. It is, yet again, the UK government who are gold plating the directive and leading the rest of the EU in its implementation. Blame the Labour cabinet! (Imperative correctly used.) The fortnightly refuse collections are not billed as such; normal waste is collected one week, recyclables the next. They are not universal - both my recycled material and my waste are collected weekly as the decision lies with the local council. The decision is made by the local council, in conjunction with their contractors, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. Again the decision to incinerate excess waste lies with local (county) councils, although there is pressure through landfill taxes. It is possible to hit EU led recycling targets, which we would probably retain even if we left the EU, by good management. We can't blame poor management on the EU when it is down to our own local authorities. Stopping mass EU immigration is laudable, but ask the French, Portuguese, Italians or Spanish about the millions of Brits who have bought land and homes in their countries and have forced up property prices so that many rural areas no longer have a native population. Robert Kilroy-Silk (Spain), Godfrey Bloom (France), UKIPMan (France), George Galloway (Portugal), both of my brothers (Germany) and hundreds of thousands of others are typical of first or second home owners. If we remove the right to settle or work can we be certain that the other countries will not dump 1 million disgruntled and homeless pensioners on our doorsteps? I thought the policy was more sensibly presented as 'one in, one out'. It's a simple leaflet aimed at the lowest common denominator and is lighthearted, but will not win votes, IMHO. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

15-05-2008, 07:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	Anyone forming a queue to give Nattras a poke? You would need a bag to put over his head... ...perhaps two bags in case his one fell off? He has a fine pair of baps! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

15-05-2008, 08:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,666	This is just too bad to be a real UKIP leaflet surely? __________________ Anything I post on this web forum is my personal opinion only. Users on Ignore list: None.

15-05-2008, 08:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,140 Party: None	Is this a leaflet or a poster? Have many been distributed? Any feedback from the public yet? It is very hard to judge what will appeal to people in advance. __________________ If you care about what's in your food and where it comes from, then get it labelled! Label My Food - http://www.labelmyfood.org.uk

15-05-2008, 08:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	It makes me moist... ...I have issues... ...I really do need some serious help! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

15-05-2008, 08:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,100	The leaflet could have been very good and got attention from people and the media. On the matter of the number of British people living in Spain, Portugal and so on, that is (or should be) a matter for the people of Spain, Portugal, etc. In Spain UK ex-pats were welcomed long before Spain was in the EU, presumably because Brits brought wealth in, stimulated development, and didn't take jobs from the locals.

15-05-2008, 09:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,832 Party: Libertarian Party	Sorry guys, but this is **** poor. Are you really putting this through doors? If so, I expect a record low result for UKIP. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

15-05-2008, 10:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
mattyr2k8 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England, United Kingdom Posts: 103	That leaflet will be more likely to lose votes than gain them :\

15-05-2008, 10:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
fordtit Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sunny East Posts: 118	B****y Hell! His head is too small for the body! Is this leaflet really being sent out?

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