Thread: Boris Johnson has defeated pro-EU Livingstone in London Mayor vote says Mr. Portillo

Stanley, Boris and Dave all see themselves as 'eurosceptics'. You couldn't get a fag paper between them.

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Face it Brit, you voted for an EU man. The oldest trick in the book worked perfectly. You were so busy hating the bad Cop, that the good cop steamed in and done you up like a kipper.

Wrong.

It is you who helped put europhile Labour into power in 1997 and you who again did as the europhiles wanted last week - which was to oppose anti-EU people voting (in the second preference round of that election) for Boris Johnson MP (in the London Mayoral Election) even though in doing so the chances of UKIP-hating euro-fan Livingstone keeping the top job at City Hall increased.

UKIP people in London gave their 'spare vote' vote to Boris Johnson MP to get UKIP-hating Livingstone out. Livingstone - the man who wants the euro, EU Constitution and EU Superstate. The man who wants to stop us having an EU Constitution referendum.

We now have a Mayor who opposes the euro, opposes the EU Constitution, opposes the EU Superstate and who is in favour of a referendum on the EU Constitution.

Our new Mayor voted for an EU referendum in the Commons only a few weeks ago. And he voted against the EU Constitution. Something UKIP-hating Livingstone would never have done.

Just as UKIP asked people to "lend" them their vote in the 2004 EU Election, UKIP people in London told me they gave their 'spare' vote to Boris Johnson MP last week to help get UKIP-hating Livingstone out. The UKIP people I have spoken to say that their vote for Boris Johnson was 'a one-off' and that they will all vote UKIP at the next General Election.

Originally Posted by eublues

Stanley, Boris and Dave all see themselves as 'eurosceptics'. You couldn't get a fag paper between them.

UKIP people I spoke to here in London made clear that their vote for Boris Johnson MP (in last week's Mayoral Election in the capital) was a "one-off" - a second preference vote given to him because they could not use it for UKIP (if you vote for one party/candidate in the first preference round you cannot vote for the same party/candidate again in the second round). UKIP people in the capital gave their 'spare' vote to anti-euro and pro-EU 'Treaty' referendum Boris Johnson MP in order to help remove UKIP-hating europhile and EU 'Treaty' referendum opponent Livingstone as Mayor of London.

When the General Election comes UKIP people in the capital will vote UKIP.

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Straight from the horses ....

They have also shown that by putting some of their better candidates and strongest efforts into opposing Eurosceptic Conservatives in seats the Conservatives can win, they may give us more federalist MPs by tipping the balance in favour of the pro-EU Liberal Democrat or Labour candidate. How stupid can you get?

Regarding the alleged quote of the words of Conservative MP Mr. John Redwood (above) - he doesn't actually call UKIP stupid. He calls the tactic of UKIP in putting "their better candidates and strongest efforts into opposing eurosceptic Conservatives in seats the Conservatives can win..." as stupid.

As I wrote earlier, he did actually once dismiss a remark put to him which was critical of UKIP.

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

They all are pro European Union....

Yes - most of the parties in the House of Commons are pro-EU. And all the UKIP people I spoke to who gave their 'spare' vote to Boris Johnson MP last week (in the 2008 London Mayoral Election) will vote UKIP at the next General Election.

We had four votes in London last week and all the UKIP people who I chatted with gave three votes to UKIP and one to Boris Johnson - the one to Boris Johnson MP given quite specifically as a way of trying to get UKIP-hating europhile Livingstone out.