Thread: Tories hit rock 'bottom'

Originally Posted by Dazza

Some people just happen to be gay, get over it guys. If a Tory group wants to arrange a forum to discuss issues that effect them along with other issues that effect everyone then I really cannot see any problem. I think its the case that this group exists to challenge the attitudes of a majority of the posters in this discussion and not an organisation to arrange 'orgies' or casual 'shags'. Considering gays are allowed to vote, why not let us play a small role in bringing about the end of incompetent Labour and replace it was an all encompassing Conservative Government? By all means set up a hetero group to protect straights from heterophobia, I'm sure you'll be most successful in your endeavour.

The point is you dont need a hetrosexual group what is needed is a party that can put forward a cohrent agenda for governement, gay people can contribute policy ideas to this I dont see why you need such a group, it is gay people saying look at us we are diffrent and then saying at the same timebut actually we are just the same and demand equal rights, the message is a very confused one.

As an after thought I wonder if anyone has asked Anne Widdecombes opinon on this particular venture.

Originally Posted by Mr. Red

one difference. paedophilia is dispicable and illegal, being gay is not. do you really want to carry on that comparison?

The one thing they do have in common is that both are sexually deviant.

Originally Posted by Yorkshire-Terrier

What's wrong with listening to the opinions of gay Conservatives? They do exist, you know! Remember Alan Duncan, one of our best shadow ministers?

I cannot understand how a party that believes in economic liberty can harbour members who oppose personal liberty. Who exactly are gay people harming? They're not harming me or my girlfriend, so we live and let live. What consenting adults- including everybody else who's contributed to this thread and myself- do behind closed doors is none of anybody else's business and certainly none of the government's business.

I seem to remember joining the Conservatives because they advocate small, unintrusive government: in my view, if we advocate economic freedom, then we should advocate personal freedom, and that the state should only intervene when one person's actions actually harm another person's freedom.

I cannot for the life of me comprehend the attitudes of the Tory Taliban: economic freedom and a morally-interventionist state. It doesn't seem like the Tory Taliban really believe in rolling back the frontiers of the state, it's more like they advocate rearranging the furniture once in a while.

I have no problem with what anyone does behind closed doors (unless of course there's a threat to life or limb). It's when they start ramming their pro-gay agenda down my throat that I start to take offence.

I don't see the need for them to flaunt their homosexuality at every turn. They keep claiming they're just 'normal' folk like everyone else, yet continue to act in a manner that segregates them on purpose (gay pride?).

I don't care what anyone does in private, but there's definitely no need to go out of the way to publicise it.

Originally Posted by CllrDaKa

Firstly, Mr Smith I will start with a quote of the agreed principles when registering with this forum:

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws."

One would assume that you are not only arrogant in your opinions but ignorant in your knowledge. If you paid more attention to Pink News then you may have seen an article in regards to the new amendment under the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill.

This amendment which is to go to third report stage will make incitement to cause hatred, harm or otherwise on sexual-orientation grounds an offence. You'll note that no Conservative MPs voted against this amendment! This is because the Tory Party is changing with the times, it is growing stronger in the face of adversity in the face of such groups as the Conservative Democratic Alliance which I'm sure you're aware of. Do not rest on your laurels Mr Smith as I'm sure that if you continue on your track of such blatant disregard to the rules of the forum and soon the law of the UK you may find yourself in a sticky position.

Well! Well! we do seem to have a sudden influx of 'newbies'. Barrackroom lawyers too. Own this forum now do you?

Well orchestrated. aren't they? Coud they by any chance be related?

I'm not at all surprised to hear how the cowardly PC Tory scum behaved and if you Mr CllrDaKa + sockpuppets - whoever you are - ever care to identify yourself and confront me face to face I'll give you something to remember me by.

I don't care for skulking dogs, particularly when they happen to be of - as you would put it - a particular 'orientation'

And as for the new Nazi 'law', those who support it can put it where they will enjoy it. Right up their jacksies.

Originally Posted by Yorkshire-Terrier

Remember Alan Duncan, one of our best shadow ministers?

Are you trying to be funny?

It's only the presence of balls-haven't-dropped scum such as Cameron, Osborne and Gove that make the snivelling little prat look bad rather than appalling.

I wish the traitorous trash of the Tory Party - gay and straight - all the very worst. If Bin Laden were to bring down a plane carrying the entire shadow cabinet I have a case of champagne here just waiting to be broken open.

I think people should be free to be gay, but other people should be free to say they don't like it.