Thread: Who is ordering the Tory Party to remain Europhile?

Originally Posted by Millennium3

I am not sure that gays are predominately left wing BvL. However, I think you will find that the decision had been pretty well researched and they found that few of their customers, who mostly shop at Tesco's because it is cheap, would be outraged by this decision - certainly not sufficiently for them to boycott their outlets.

The decision, I would suspect, is more to do with the facts that gays usually co-habitate, have no dependents and are two income households, but most importantly - have far more disposable income than the average cancer sufferer.

Just hard nosed realism!

Supporting homosexuals is a case of supporting 1% at the disgust of the other 99%. Homosexuals do not earn a hundred times the salary, and besides, if you earned a decent salary you would not buy socialist wares like that anyway. Tescos is a state supplier for the proles. I mean state supplier in terms of its function as opposed to the descriptors used. Never rely on official categorization, e.g. Marxist dictatorships were always labelled 'the people's'. That's what Tescos is essentially. It is above the law because it is the law. This socialism is dictatorship. It extends across all public departments and an increasing proportion of what was once private business. Banks are playing the same game and that is why they never serve you as a customer. They are truly fascist because they control the market, just as Tescos does.

Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

My opinion on Common Purpose is that it is part of a lot greater system. All Common Purpose functions as, is a networking and public sector management brainwashing unit. I don't think it has any power in its own right. Like many of the things we see, they are taking orders from above.

Youre probably largely right but its also a very clever way of finding out who will make suitable ' on message' senior managers for lareg orgnisations, and to find out throught their psychological techniques who has skeletons in their cupboards and is thus vulnerable to threats as well as bribes. Or am I being too conspiricist?

Originally Posted by flamingreen

Youre probably largely right but its also a very clever way of finding out who will make suitable ' on message' senior managers for lareg orgnisations, and to find out throught their psychological techniques who has skeletons in their cupboards and is thus vulnerable to threats as well as bribes. Or am I being too conspiricist?

Well the research on Common Purpose has been great. I feel the lid has been blown off it quite nicely now. I often see bloggers in the Mail and Telegraph making reference to it. In actual fact I think we are winning. Bit by bit these things are getting pieced together.

I'm just trying to deal with the myth that these corporations are capitalist, because it is clear by their behaviour that they are anything but. In the old days we had large companies run by men in their 60s, because they had the wealth of experience to run them. Notice now how we see women appointed to run companies, such as Hewlett and Packard and the other day it was IBM. Add to that how companies like Google and Facebook are run by virtual kids. You see the thing is that it is no longer a market where there is competition, so the heads are just appointments by the wider socialist powers that be. Facebook and Twitter have been promoted by the BBC in a completely blatant way, and yet the BBC are not supposed to endorse commercial products. They do though, and they are the chosen ones.

Another example would be those private companies that take nearly all of their work from the government. There are suppliers to the NHS. The other day I heard the DWP were paying £18/year on maintenance contracts for computer mice. Think about that one. A computer mouse can be bought for about £5 these days and can last ten years. Also we have companies that seem to have sprung up out of nowhere and take nearly all the local authority contracts. They are multi-billion pound operations. Even to do simple jobs like cutting hedges, the work is farmed out to the same firms across the country. This is where the bulk of public money goes even though again the councils by law need to tended the contracts on the open market. I wonder what would happen if I tended for a mouse maintenance contract at £17.50/year. I don't really need to ask though, do I!

The other day I heard the DWP were paying £18/year on maintenance contracts for computer mice. Think about that one.

Are you sure thats not an 'urban myth'?

DWP's biggest desktop outsourcing deal is costly long game for Fujitsu | PublicTechnology.net

Originally Posted by flamingreen

Are you sure thats not an 'urban myth'?

DWP's biggest desktop outsourcing deal is costly long game for Fujitsu | PublicTechnology.net

I just pick these bits of information up off real people. I presume someone found out that works there.

While America plays its part the old Tory guard of Hurd, Howe Heseltine et al are the ones keeping the Tories on message over the EU.

I believe Cameron took over Witney from Hurd and still bows at his altar.

Someone boasted in the Telegraph that Britain would join the euro within 18 months. Do you think it has already been decided and Heseltine is the frontman to soften us up to the idea? It spooked me a bit because they said this before Heseltine opened his gob, and I also heard it from some Tory Party member before that as well. I mean the Tory Party member I heard it from is a strong eurosceptic, but he seemed to know the Bobby Moore if you know what I mean. You can often tell the difference. There was no 'might' prefixed to this comment.