Peter Hitchens says "Please don't vote Tory"

Bluemerle · 30-04-2008, 11:44 PM

eublues · 30-04-2008, 11:52 PM

Good to see him putting the power of the EU over us as the big issue.

Britannist · 01-05-2008, 12:08 AM

As a committed anti-EU campaigner I look forward to voting here in the capital later today to hopefully help remove the anti-UKIP europhile Livingstone as Mayor of London

.

It does our cause no good at all having pro-EU leftist Livingstone hold the biggest directly-elected office in europe (after the French Presidency).

I have two votes in today's Mayoral election and one of them will most definitely be going to Conservative Boris Johnson MP who will face Livingstone in the second round of voting.

I want Livingstone out of City Hall.

Little has been said about the election to the 24-member London Assembly which is also taking place today - but I think there is a chance Labour (Lie-bour) and the europhile Liberal 'Democrats' could lose at least one seat each on that

.

Let's hope so anyway

.

London Mayoral Election 2008 candidates: Richard Barnbrook - British National Party, Gerard Batten - UK Independence Party, Siân Berry - Green Party, Alan Craig - Christian Peoples Alliance and Christian Party , Lindsey German - Left List, Boris Johnson - Conservative Party, Ken Livingstone - The Labour Party, Winston McKenzie - Independent, Matt O'Connor - English Democrats, Brian Paddick - Liberal Democrats.

Full details of the London Mayoral and Assembly candidates for the 1.5.2008 London Elections at:

London Elects - The candidates

and in posting number three at:

UKIP Gerard Batten London mayor Election Broadcast

eublues · 01-05-2008, 12:13 AM

Don't vote Boris - he's a europhile at least as much as Ken - don't forget his dad's pension. As Heffer says, all Boris is motivated by is personal ambition.

Britannist · 01-05-2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eublues

Don't vote Boris - he's a europhile at least as much as Ken -

Forgive me for disagreeing with you but: No he is not.

Most of the people writing on this forum that we should not vote for Boris Johnson MP do not live in the capital and do not know what it is like to have to put up with europhile Livingstone every day.

You are displaying the UKIP logo, EU Blues - Livingstone hates UKIP.

I have no record of Boris Johnson MP making any anti-UKIP remarks.

Boris Johnson opposes the euro and is against the EU Superstate.

Livingstone wants the euro; has said publicly that he wants the UK to become part of the EU Superstate and has even called for London clocks to be put on continental european time.

If you are reading this in London - please use one of your two votes today in the Mayoral Election by supporting Conservative Mayoral candidate Boris Johnson MP.

mkpdavies · 01-05-2008, 11:46 AM

Hitchens gets it right again.

Sadly, not only do we have to beat Labour, but Blue Labour too. Blue Labour being even more difficult as people set in their ways can't see that they are no better.

Worse in fact, because they are a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Vortex · 01-05-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Hitchens gets it right again.

Sadly, not only do we have to beat Labour, but Blue Labour too. Blue Labour being even more difficult as people set in their ways can't see that they are no better.

Worse in fact, because they are a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Hitchens does get it right, but always fail to offer any solutions despite his protestations to the contrary. He correctly attacks Blue Labour as well as Labour, but never endorses anyone else. Neither UKIP (who he continually dismisses as an irrelevance), nor the BNP (for its supposed extremism and neo-fascism), a subject he refuses to enter into a debate on.

So as others have opined in the answers section to his column, who are we supposed to vote for?

Its very easy to snipe away from the sidelines when you get a very nice renumeration for doing so. The British people are desperate for change, and need positivity not negativity. I have nailed my colours to the mast of the BNP. Others have to UKIP on this forum. Hitchens are firmly secured to his bank account.

Britannist · 04-05-2008, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Hitchens gets it right again. Sadly, not only do we have to beat Labour, but Blue Labour too.

I understand that Mr. Hitchens has criticised UKIP (as Vortex also appears to imply in posting number seven to this thread). From what he has written previously on his Mail on Sunday blog I am led to believe that Mr. Hitchens is not a supporter of the party.

Westcountryman · 04-05-2008, 03:16 AM

A quote from Peter Hitchens on UKIP:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Hitchens

That sound you hear is the soft thud of my head beating against the wall,
as I try to explain this simple thing: The Tory Party is finished forever
and will never win another election. The grim reaper reduces its vote each
week, and it is not replaced because Tories stopped breeding 35 years ago.
It is Labour's ideal opposition, the only party Labour can always beat. The
worst POSSIBLE thing to happen at any election is a Tory 'recovery', which
will prolong the life of this useless, doomed party for yet another four
years of ineffectual opposition and lost elections. If only people had
followed my advice in 2005, and refused to vote for it, it might have
collapsed by now and there would be hope.

A lot of people(including me) don't like UKIP because of its cravat-wearing
Dad's Army aspect, because of the braying , home counties golf-club accents
of its leading figures, because of its pitiful naivety over Kilroy, who
used it when it thought it was using him. Others (including me) don't like
it because of that ninny who went on about women cleaning behind the
fridge. Others (including me) see it, with some justice, as a single-issue
party that has belatedly invented some other policies on the side (that
outdated, weird symbol of a £ sign is a big liability, as is the name.
'Ukay' is not the name of our country, it's a bureaucratic, denatured set
of initials) . Also it is proof of Henry Kissinger's adage that the worst
faction fights take place in the most insignificant organisations,
precisely because the stakes are so small, and - with no realistic prospect
of real power - political people enjoy the strife for its own sake. I am
endlessly battered with e-mails from various factions in UKIP urging me to
take sides with them.

BonnieDundee · 04-05-2008, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britannist

Forgive me for disagreeing with you but: No he is not.

Most of the people writing on this forum that we should not vote for Boris Johnson MP do not live in the capital and do not know what it is like to have to put up with europhile Livingstone every day.

You are displaying the UKIP logo, EU Blues - Livingstone hates UKIP.

I have no record of Boris Johnson MP making any anti-UKIP remarks.

Boris Johnson opposes the euro and is against the EU Superstate.

Livingstone wants the euro; has said publicly that he wants the UK to become part of the EU Superstate and has even called for London clocks to be put on continental european time.

If you are reading this in London - please use one of your two votes today in the Mayoral Election by supporting Conservative Mayoral candidate Boris Johnson MP.

I doubt Boris Johnson knows how to do up his shoelaces without a team of helpers. What he gains in being slightly more anti-EU he loses in being an idiot.

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Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Anti-UKIP europhile Livingstone, Mayor of London, Boris Johnson MP, Conservative As a committed anti-EU campaigner I look forward to voting here in the capital later today to hopefully help remove the anti-UKIP europhile Livingstone as Mayor of London . It does our cause no good at all having pro-EU leftist Livingstone hold the biggest directly-elected office in europe (after the French Presidency). I have two votes in today's Mayoral election and one of them will most definitely be going to Conservative Boris Johnson MP who will face Livingstone in the second round of voting. I want Livingstone out of City Hall. Little has been said about the election to the 24-member London Assembly which is also taking place today - but I think there is a chance Labour (Lie-bour) and the europhile Liberal 'Democrats' could lose at least one seat each on that . Let's hope so anyway . London Mayoral Election 2008 candidates: Richard Barnbrook - British National Party, Gerard Batten - UK Independence Party, Siân Berry - Green Party, Alan Craig - Christian Peoples Alliance and Christian Party , Lindsey German - Left List, Boris Johnson - Conservative Party, Ken Livingstone - The Labour Party, Winston McKenzie - Independent, Matt O'Connor - English Democrats, Brian Paddick - Liberal Democrats. Full details of the London Mayoral and Assembly candidates for the 1.5.2008 London Elections at: London Elects - The candidates and in posting number three at: UKIP Gerard Batten London mayor Election Broadcast Last edited by Britannist; 01-05-2008 at 12:13 AM.

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30-04-2008, 11:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,928	Good to see him putting the power of the EU over us as the big issue.

01-05-2008, 12:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,928	Don't vote Boris - he's a europhile at least as much as Ken - don't forget his dad's pension. As Heffer says, all Boris is motivated by is personal ambition.