why tory voters should join and vote ukip

kernow · 04-02-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alteclansing

yes the 2005 gernal election manifesto can be viewed here
http://www.ukip.org/ukip/images/stor...ifesto2005.pdf
takes a minute or two to load

You've got to have good eyesight to read it online and for Joe and Jane Public 2005 is a long time ago!

Britannist · 04-02-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

You've got to have good eyesight to read it online....

When you enter the document on the above link - if you look towards the upper part of your screen you should see a minus and plus sign (zoom facility): click on the symbol to the right of that and you will be able to enlarge the text.

British-Conservatism · 08-02-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alteclansing

by voting ukip you will -
Restore our British sovereignty, which has been consistently reduced by successive Conservative and Labour governments as they sign up to an increasing number of European treaties and policies. Increasing interference to the British way of life has been imposed on us during the current Labour administration. Labour is determined to destroy our country, its culture and heritage.

Take control of our national borders and impose our own immigration rules.

Repatriate the many thousands of illegal immigrants who represent a significant risk to our national security and who create a drain on our already over-burdened resources. But yet, this Labour government displays little interest or ability in managing this crisis.

Save 50 million pounds per day currently paid into EU coffers, which can be better spent to benefit our country and protect its people.

Rebuild our national fishing industry, which has been reduced to almost extinction, with the introduction of a strong fisheries protection fleet to protect our fish stocks. We also need to assist UK Customs & Excise in their fight against the elicit smuggling of drugs.

Restore our national agriculture and protect the custodians of our precious countryside.

Develop British democracy by encouraging the electorate to vote on contentious issues through referendums. Government by the people for the people!

Reduce the oppressive regulation imposed on British businesses and exempt small businesses with less than 25 employees from the present damaging regulations imposed on them.

Eradicate political correctness and replace with free speech and common sense.

Introduce a zero tolerance approach to assist in fighting crime, with effective practical deterrents.

Scrap unelected regional assemblies such as SEERA & SEEDA and work towards the amalgamation of county and district councils. This would provide unitary authorities to replace the complicated and costly local government structures that we have today.

Ban live animal exports and Halal slaughter, and improve animal welfare conditions in food production.

They all sound quite good to me.

brad12jy · 13-02-2008, 09:20 PM

join ukip then and lets make it happen

Englishwoman · 23-02-2008, 12:20 PM

Unfortunately there are many potential UKIP voters who, in the heat of a local or general election, feel their vote will only serve to diminish the Conservative candidate count, that is if they are lucky enough to have a UKIP candidate. The aim is to get rid of this government as quickly as possible. If we are to have a feasible alternative, why can't all the English parties unite and draw up a manifesto under one party name. It is obvious that Scotland and Wales want their independence, so how about just English Democratic Independence Party - EDIP?

Britannist · 23-02-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Englishwoman

It is obvious that Scotland and Wales want their independence.....

Is it?

I want equality for England in the UK (i.e. England having the same powers over her domestic affairs that Scotland has had since devolution in 1999) but I believe that the UK has majority support in all four parts of the Union.

Englishwoman · 23-02-2008, 06:55 PM

Will all four parts of the Union agree to opt out of the European Union? It is time we stopped rolling over like subservient puppies. We need a statesman for England and a government that puts England first.

Westcountryman · 23-02-2008, 08:32 PM

Oh joy, another English separatist.

Britannist · 23-02-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Englishwoman

Will all four parts of the Union agree to opt out of the European Union? It is time we stopped rolling over like subservient puppies. We need a statesman for England and a government that puts England first.

I agree that we need a Government on the side of England and that this Labour shower in power at Westminster hate England.

But I do not think, Englishwoman, that Scotland and Wales want out of the UK. If votes were held in the four parts of the UK I think that there would be big votes in all four parts of the Union of the UK to continue. Even if, say, Scotland quit the Union of the UK, the Union would simply carry on - just as it effectively did before Scotland joined it (i.e. as you know England and Wales were linked for centuries before Scotland helped form what is now the UK).

The Scottish so-called 'National' Party (who are - like the Liberal 'Democrats' - the political arm of the EU in the UK) make a lot of noise but if/when it came/comes to a referendum on this matter in Scotland I think the UK Unionists would/will win and win big.

Britannist · 23-02-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Oh joy, another English separatist.

I think someone in the anti-UK movement in England is giving out the address of this forum to fellow believers.

I support financial and constitutional equality for England with Scotland within the UK but want the UK Union to continue.

Nothing would please the EU more than to see the fragmentation of our ancient and highly successful Union of the countries of these islands.

13-02-2008, 09:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
brad12jy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 546	join ukip then and lets make it happen __________________ My ignore list - Tony Bennett

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Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,698 Party: Libertarian Party	Oh joy, another English separatist. __________________ Porthemmet Beach

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23-02-2008, 12:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
Englishwoman Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Epsom, Surrey Posts: 5	Unfortunately there are many potential UKIP voters who, in the heat of a local or general election, feel their vote will only serve to diminish the Conservative candidate count, that is if they are lucky enough to have a UKIP candidate. The aim is to get rid of this government as quickly as possible. If we are to have a feasible alternative, why can't all the English parties unite and draw up a manifesto under one party name. It is obvious that Scotland and Wales want their independence, so how about just English Democratic Independence Party - EDIP?

23-02-2008, 06:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
Englishwoman Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Epsom, Surrey Posts: 5	Will all four parts of the Union agree to opt out of the European Union? It is time we stopped rolling over like subservient puppies. We need a statesman for England and a government that puts England first.