Conservatives concerned at Cameron performance says BBC

Britannist · 01-11-2006, 06:46 PM

News of David Cameron, the pro-EU and anti-UKIP leader of the Conservative Party:

The Speaker of the House of Commons today (1.11.2006) told Conservative leader David Cameron (in no uncertain times) that he should stop repeatedly asking Blair who he wants as the next leader of the Labour Party. The Speaker did allow David Cameron the right to ask the Prime Minister who he wanted as his successor (because, according to the Speaker, asking about the post of Prime Minister is not the same as asking about the job of Labour Party leader).

Blair replied to David Cameron “We (Labour) have created the best economy for decades – a better record than yours – which is as (former Conservative Chancellor) Norman Lamont’s bag carrier on Black Wednesday.” (Black Wednesday is a reference to the day the UK was forced out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism after the disastrous europhile Major ‘Conservative’ Government had moved interest rates up and down to and from near record high levels several times in one day).

Nick Robinson, the BBC political correspondent, said on ‘The Daily Politics’ on BBC 2 Television at 12.42 pm on 1.11.2006 “It’s not been a good couple of weeks for David Cameron. Labour seem to be finding their feet again. I would have thought behind the scenes Conservatives will now be slightly worried.”

* The Mail on Sunday claimed last week that BBC political editor Nick Robinson had been praised by the Cameron team for helping him get the Conservative Party leadership by claiming David Cameron delivered a good party conference speech (before the Conservative leadership vote). The Mail said that Nick Robinson was a supporter of Kenneth Clarke, the europhile 'Conservative'. It said the Cameron team regarding getting the support of Nick Robinson (in his reporting of politcal affairs) was more important to David Cameron's team, than securing the backing of the pro-Conservative Daily Telegraph newspaper.

mkpdavies · 01-11-2006, 06:51 PM

British politics lies in tatters in the gutter.

Pathetic.

arden forester · 02-11-2006, 05:05 PM

Cameron put himself into a trap here. The Speaker was right to reprimand him. Cameron should have known that Labour Party business is not Government Business! The two are quite rightly separate. No Speaker has ever allowed this to be any different.

Mikeuk · 02-11-2006, 06:57 PM

Cameron's behaviour in the Commons was disgraceful. And isn't this the man who said he wanted an end to Punch and Judy politics? Another lie.

Instead Cameron emerged in his true colours as the brain dead hooray Henry he actually is.

He's a spoiled silver-spoon brat who will never grow up. I don't know where the pollsters find all these people who are supposed to like him. I never meet any.

Britannist · 02-11-2006, 07:15 PM

It is very damaging for David Cameron to be labelled, as he was by Blair yesterday, as the "bag carrier for Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday."

Blair's claim is true - David Cameron did work for Lord Lamont at the time and has been shown in television 'clips' walking behind Norman Lamont when he walked out to the press/media to make the remark on 'Black Wednesday' "today has been a very difficult day" (i.e. interest rates were moved up to record levels and down again and up again on the same day in September 1992 by the shambolic Major 'Conserative' Government which was desperately trying to keep the UK in the european single currency ERM system).

Reference to David Cameron's involvement in the events of the day (and his support for the UK being in the ERM) by Blair yesterday (at Prime Minister's Question Time in the Commons) is a clear hint of exactly what ammunition Labour intend to use against the pro-EU and anti-UKIP Conservative leader Cameron in the campaign for the next General Election.

mkpdavies · 02-11-2006, 07:19 PM

Blair would have put us in the same position. It's hypocrisy of Labour to hammer the Tories for their EUphillia causing us damage.

Britannist · 02-11-2006, 07:23 PM

Labour will use, use and use again television (video) footage of David Cameron standing near Norman Lamont as the then Chancellor tried to explain (on 'Black Wednesday' in September 1992) just about the worst Conservative economic day in Government ever. A day which wrecked the Conservative reputation with the voters of being good in handling the economy for years ahead.

David Cameron may come to regret his time working as a researcher in the Treasury for the discredited europhile 'Conservative' Major regime.

Labour are determined to hold on to power and to use ruthless campaigning if they have to - they don't want to lose to the Conservatives. Especially one from Eton.

eublues · 02-11-2006, 07:27 PM

A bit embarrassing, but surely he can dredge up the Labour party's enthusiasm for the ERM at the time.

Britannist · 02-11-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eublues

A bit embarrassing, but surely he can dredge up the Labour party's enthusiasm for the ERM at the time.

That would involve David Cameron having to (reluctantly on his part) bring up 'europe'. As Sunday Telegraph columnist and anti-EU campaigner Christopher Booker says "Cameron doesn't 'do' europe."

mkpdavies · 02-11-2006, 07:29 PM

Exactly. The Labour party are in a massive greenhouse on this issue.

Indeed, I am shocked they have brought it up. I bet a cozy deal is made sharpish behind the scenes, so it won't be brought up again.

Hey web guys/leadership types/ people who have the ear of the leadership. UKIP could do a cracking press release on this.

01-11-2006, 06:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Conservatives concerned at Cameron performance says BBC News of David Cameron, the pro-EU and anti-UKIP leader of the Conservative Party: The Speaker of the House of Commons today (1.11.2006) told Conservative leader David Cameron (in no uncertain times) that he should stop repeatedly asking Blair who he wants as the next leader of the Labour Party. The Speaker did allow David Cameron the right to ask the Prime Minister who he wanted as his successor (because, according to the Speaker, asking about the post of Prime Minister is not the same as asking about the job of Labour Party leader). Blair replied to David Cameron “We (Labour) have created the best economy for decades – a better record than yours – which is as (former Conservative Chancellor) Norman Lamont’s bag carrier on Black Wednesday.” (Black Wednesday is a reference to the day the UK was forced out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism after the disastrous europhile Major ‘Conservative’ Government had moved interest rates up and down to and from near record high levels several times in one day). Nick Robinson, the BBC political correspondent, said on ‘The Daily Politics’ on BBC 2 Television at 12.42 pm on 1.11.2006 “It’s not been a good couple of weeks for David Cameron. Labour seem to be finding their feet again. I would have thought behind the scenes Conservatives will now be slightly worried.” * The Mail on Sunday claimed last week that BBC political editor Nick Robinson had been praised by the Cameron team for helping him get the Conservative Party leadership by claiming David Cameron delivered a good party conference speech (before the Conservative leadership vote). The Mail said that Nick Robinson was a supporter of Kenneth Clarke, the europhile 'Conservative'. It said the Cameron team regarding getting the support of Nick Robinson (in his reporting of politcal affairs) was more important to David Cameron's team, than securing the backing of the pro-Conservative Daily Telegraph newspaper.

01-11-2006, 06:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,055 Party: Libertarian Party	British politics lies in tatters in the gutter. Pathetic. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

02-11-2006, 05:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,679 Party: None	Cameron put himself into a trap here. The Speaker was right to reprimand him. Cameron should have known that Labour Party business is not Government Business! The two are quite rightly separate. No Speaker has ever allowed this to be any different. __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com www.westminster-whispers.blogspot.com

02-11-2006, 07:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Cameron's involvement in supporting ERM to be election issue It is very damaging for David Cameron to be labelled, as he was by Blair yesterday, as the "bag carrier for Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday." Blair's claim is true - David Cameron did work for Lord Lamont at the time and has been shown in television 'clips' walking behind Norman Lamont when he walked out to the press/media to make the remark on 'Black Wednesday' "today has been a very difficult day" (i.e. interest rates were moved up to record levels and down again and up again on the same day in September 1992 by the shambolic Major 'Conserative' Government which was desperately trying to keep the UK in the european single currency ERM system). Reference to David Cameron's involvement in the events of the day (and his support for the UK being in the ERM) by Blair yesterday (at Prime Minister's Question Time in the Commons) is a clear hint of exactly what ammunition Labour intend to use against the pro-EU and anti-UKIP Conservative leader Cameron in the campaign for the next General Election.

02-11-2006, 07:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,055 Party: Libertarian Party	Blair would have put us in the same position. It's hypocrisy of Labour to hammer the Tories for their EUphillia causing us damage. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

02-11-2006, 06:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mikeuk Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fareham Posts: 5,758 Party: Conservatives	Cameron's behaviour in the Commons was disgraceful. And isn't this the man who said he wanted an end to Punch and Judy politics? Another lie. Instead Cameron emerged in his true colours as the brain dead hooray Henry he actually is. He's a spoiled silver-spoon brat who will never grow up. I don't know where the pollsters find all these people who are supposed to like him. I never meet any.

02-11-2006, 07:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Labour to use Cameron's time backing ERM against him Labour will use, use and use again television (video) footage of David Cameron standing near Norman Lamont as the then Chancellor tried to explain (on 'Black Wednesday' in September 1992) just about the worst Conservative economic day in Government ever. A day which wrecked the Conservative reputation with the voters of being good in handling the economy for years ahead. David Cameron may come to regret his time working as a researcher in the Treasury for the discredited europhile 'Conservative' Major regime. Labour are determined to hold on to power and to use ruthless campaigning if they have to - they don't want to lose to the Conservatives. Especially one from Eton.

02-11-2006, 07:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,122	A bit embarrassing, but surely he can dredge up the Labour party's enthusiasm for the ERM at the time.

02-11-2006, 07:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,055 Party: Libertarian Party	Exactly. The Labour party are in a massive greenhouse on this issue. Indeed, I am shocked they have brought it up. I bet a cozy deal is made sharpish behind the scenes, so it won't be brought up again. Hey web guys/leadership types/ people who have the ear of the leadership. UKIP could do a cracking press release on this. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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