Originally Posted by chikrodah

2. Provide us with evidentiary proof of your allegations re the members of other parties, or don't make them. Just because DN labels these people as such, based on his own values and beliefs, does not make these accusations facts.

As someone with 9 years military service, I actually agree with you regarding the destruction of our armed forces. I've managed to make Alaistair Darling look stupid on prime time TV by making that very point. However, I wasn't aware we were at war with the Iranian Navy. Thank you for letting us know the latest turn of events.

3. I've never claimed to represent the British nation. Why should I?

4. What exactly is UKIP supposed to have lost? Which leader is/was the incompetent alcoholic? Which electoral result are you talking about? UKIP is a small party whose own grass roots cannot agree to work together in some parts of the country, whose branches are riddled with those who believe pet obsessions are better than long-term goals, who believe in the cult of the celebrity rather than teamwork. It's not surprising that it has few councillors; it's difficult enough for Tories, Labour and Lib Dems to get seats in wards that traditionally vote for another party and that's with all the publicity and money at their disposal. UKIP is actually doing reasonably well for this stage in its development.

5. What Polish jokes have I ever used against you? What lies (other than having a different point of view to your own)? Provide your evidence and while you are at it, provide your evidence for my wanting to become a Commissioner (?!?) or for the EU being aware enough that you exist to want to persecute you in the first place.

6. Why am I even bothering to have this conversation? You and the others who have this weird belief that those who don't slavishly agree with you are traitors, purveyors of disinformatzia, DVD operatives usw. will never manage to hold a decent debate on any subject. You can't put forward rational arguments based on facts, you can't debate on an intellectual level, you can't read a bureaucratic document without wilfully misinterpreting its clauses. You want to foment revolution rather than work legally. You want to use guerilla tactics when they are inappropriate and counter-productive. You want to use spin, not fact; you want to panic, not educate. If I said "Say hello to Old Major for me, Napoleon", would you even know what I meant?