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    This party will get absolutely nowhere with its present woolly approach. I am a Christian but I could never vote for this party unless it changes its ways and adopts a much more right wing approach.
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    Christ may have been many things but 'right-wing' was not one of them.

    May I sugest that you read the New Testament or change your preacher.
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    BNP is the place for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    Christ may have been many things but 'right-wing' was not one of them.

    May I sugest that you read the New Testament or change your preacher.
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    The Koran is

    Pro Family unit
    Pro Preventing Crime
    Pro Freedom of religion/belief (2:256) (10:99, 88:21-22) (18:29)
    Pro Banning Prostitution
    Pro Criminalizing marital adultery
    Pro Quickie 9 month divorces with alimony
    Pro Respecting parents
    Pro Modesty
    Pro Self Defence, not Aggression
    Pro life
    Pro Charity
    Pro Social Welfare
    Pro maintaining Ecological balance
    Anti Economic exploitation by charging interest
    Anti Pornography
    Anti Drugs
    Pro Racial/Ethnic Equality - this is the obvious one that the BNP will object to!

    Where do you stand on these issues? Is there in fact overlap between Christianity and the Koran?

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    Of course there is an overlap. Don't forget that when Mohammad started to write the Koran most of the Middle East was Christian.

    That was before they were offered the rather stark choice of convert to Islam or have your family wiped out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    Of course there is an overlap. Don't forget that when Mohammad started to write the Koran most of the Middle East was Christian.

    That was before they were offered the rather stark choice of convert to Islam or have your family wiped out.
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    I'm sorry, I believe that's propaganda. I've read fairly extensively and learned that that is a myth, Christianity thrived and so there are Christian communities in Syria, Lebanon, Ethiopia (assyria), most of North Africa, Egypt (large Coptic minority). If you have references that say otherwise, fine, otherwise the view of most academics on the matter is that people converted willingly, perhaps for benefit to get in with the rulers, but there was no forced proselytization on the scale of the Catholic Inquisition or such like.

    Just being accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by British LQ View Post
    I'm sorry, I believe that's propaganda. I've read fairly extensively and learned that that is a myth, Christianity thrived and so there are Christian communities in Syria, Lebanon, Ethiopia (assyria), most of North Africa, Egypt (large Coptic minority). If you have references that say otherwise, fine, otherwise the view of most academics on the matter is that people converted willingly, perhaps for benefit to get in with the rulers, but there was no forced proselytization on the scale of the Catholic Inquisition or such like.

    Just being accurate.
    So where are all of the Christian Churches and clerics in Saudi Arabia?

    Why is it that anyone who converts FROM Islam is likely to be executed in some countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS View Post
    So where are all of the Christian Churches and clerics in Saudi Arabia?

    Why is it that anyone who converts FROM Islam is likely to be executed in some countries?

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    They are following their various cultures, rather than the Koran.

    In a sense, they are "cultural muslims" rather than followers of their book. Plus there is such a great deal of variety between 54 countries and every fourth person on the planet is muslim, I believe. So clearly, we can't cater to the hundred differences between them all, it's far easier for us to relate to them through the Koran, since ALL of them accept it as the word of God, without much argument.

    It would be interesting to see Britain used Koranic reasoning in diplomacy with muslim countries...pretty radical!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by British LQ View Post
    They are following their various cultures, rather than the Koran.

    In a sense, they are "cultural muslims" rather than followers of their book. Plus there is such a great deal of variety between 54 countries and every fourth person on the planet is muslim, I believe. So clearly, we can't cater to the hundred differences between them all, it's far easier for us to relate to them through the Koran, since ALL of them accept it as the word of God, without much argument.
    How very convenient for your argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by British LQ View Post
    It would be interesting to see Britain used Koranic reasoning in diplomacy with muslim countries...pretty radical!!!
    Those countries would soon change the rules.

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    Christianity and Communism - twin ideologies aimed to destroy our people.

    Compare the two: both preach against material gains; productive elements of civilisation are maligned as "bourgeois" by Communism, which we are told must be destroyed. Christianity tells much the same thing. Christianity tells us not to accumulate personal wealth or gain but to distribute it to the poor, regardless of if they deserve it or who they are. This would cause the breakdown of society.

    Yet, hypocritically, both Christianity and Communism are hugely materialistic in the practice by their highest people. Consider the wealth of the Catholic Church, which amassed so much wealth, often from those who could not afford to give it, to become the most wealth institution on Earth. Likewise the Communist leaders in the Soviet Union accumulated great wealth for themselves.

    Both Christianity and Communism have used weapons of terror, both psychological and real. This is while they both advocate love of all humankind and equality.

    They both stand for the "last" being "first" and the downtrodden or weak and meek being better and more important than successful or healthy people.
    You're like so totally whatever!

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