Labour to take back what's 'theirs'?

Vortex · 05-06-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

I don't put my faith in politicians to save Britain.

I hope the British people will do that for us - but as things stand, I don't see much changing.

There are some of the smaller parties that I think would be better than the big three, but they are too insignificant at the moment.

That's an ambiguous answer. In order for the people to mobilise and use their collective force, they have to subscribe to some political philosophy, thus inevitably producing political spokesmen to represent them.

Britannist · 05-06-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 22ANDUK

....if, well when, Labour get defeated by the Tories and cast into Opposition will the Labour party be able to reconnect with its core voters?

The next General Election could be two years away and in the latest opinion poll (by ComRes for the Independent - details of which I posted to the forum earlier this week) support for Labour actually increased by 4% to 30% - despite all their current problems. At 30% they are now on a projected vote share 6% lower than the actual vote share they won the last General Election on.

Britannist · 05-06-2008, 06:32 PM

Not a good day for David Cameron according to ITV news:

Leader of Conservative group of MEPs in Brussels resigns as group leader

Smidgey · 05-06-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

That's an ambiguous answer. In order for the people to mobilise and use their collective force, they have to subscribe to some political philosophy, thus inevitably producing political spokesmen to represent them.

They do? Only if you accept collectivist ideologies. I would provide plenty of examples where this is not the case (such as boycotts, trade unions, etc) - but you conveniently changed the wording from 'politicians' to 'political spokesmen'.

Smidgey · 05-06-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Not a good day for David Cameron according to ITV news:

Leader of Conservative group of MEPs in Brussels resigns as group leader

Perhaps not, but it wont hurt them, Labour are still terrible.

Independence Now! · 05-06-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

The next General Election could be two years away and in the latest opinion poll (by ComRes for the Independent - details of which I posted to the forum earlier this week) support for Labour actually increased by 4% to 30% - despite all their current problems. At 30% they are now on a projected vote share 6% lower than the actual vote share they won the last General Election on.

Labour can still win the election. They won the last one on the lowest winning share in history. I wonder if Mr Brown will become a convert to electoral reform over the next two years? If he did, I'm sure Camoron wouldn't be too pleased about it!

Independence Now! · 05-06-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Perhaps not, but it wont hurt them, Labour are still terrible.

My choice would be the BNP. What is essential is that the Lib/Lab/Con Party loses support.

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