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Old 01-06-2008, 06:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Being a Yank I am not that familiar with the intracacies of the British political landscape. I suppose it's a bit presumptuous to ask,but could someone give me a crash course in your political parties? Or a site that might give me a quick rundown. Bear in mind that we keep it simple on this side of the pond, but I think I'm rather quick on the uptake.

For my part, I'm an Independent. meaning no official party affiliation. I tend to the Democrats, due to their history more than any recent legislation. when I joined and went to add an avatar, I was surprized by the number of Icons for different parties. Anyone up for it?
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Old 01-06-2008, 10:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The UK is a monarchy governed by parliment but without a written constitution
The law is based on parlimentary statutes
The parliment consists of the house of commons (elected) and the house of lords(inherited or appointed)
The Monarchs right to veto legislation has not been used since the 18th century


The Parties.
Labour (Currently in charge with a parlimentry majority), the worst kind of socialists ,will tax the people into poverty while linning their own pockets .The ,do as your told not as we do party

Conservative (main opposition he he ) A bunch of tossers ,Need a thatcher they are led by a complete wally .No good to anyone in their current state .

Liberals . Even a bigger wally runs this bunch of jokers the village cake stall of politics


Various other small parties inc
Greens...........tree huggers
UKIP..............small band of well meaning anti EU activists



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The UK is a monarchy governed by parliment but without a written constitution
I thought You were a Constitutional Monarchy?

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The law is based on parlimentary statutes
The parliment consists of the house of commons (elected) and the house of lords(inherited or appointed)
The Monarchs right to veto legislation has not been used since the 18th century
This I was somewhat familliar with.



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The Parties.
Labour (Currently in charge with a parlimentry majority), the worst kind of socialists ,will tax the people into poverty while linning their own pockets .The ,do as your told not as we do party
Sounds vaguely like the Democrats.


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Conservative (main opposition he he ) A bunch of tossers ,Need a thatcher they are led by a complete wally .No good to anyone in their current state .
tosser = ******? what we call a "jerk-off". and "wally"? Equivilant to Republicans, except they are usually the pocket-lining types. and real good with the hypocrisy, especially when it comes to gay stuff. Is this the Tory party?


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Liberals . Even a bigger wally runs this bunch of jokers the village cake stall of politics
OK, "wally" again?



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Various other small parties inc
Greens...........tree huggers
UKIP..............small band of well meaning anti EU activists
Trees are good things. I'm still working on the EU.



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Thanks for the info. I am going to take a shot and guess you're conservative? Judging by your description of Labour.
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Yes a Constitutional Monarchy,with no written constitution,the relationship between the monarch as head of state and the prime minister as head of government is based on rigid convention
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Your guess would be incorrect,maybe 30 years ago but not now

Yes this is the Tory party

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Your guess would be incorrect,maybe 30 years ago but not now

Yes this is the Tory party
So you've moved away from conservatism? That's unusual, usually people grow more conservative with age and money. If my questions are too personal, I mean no disrespect, here it's very common to ask a person's affiliation. For myself, I tend to hold views from both sides of the aisle. I believe in small gov't, but I also believe the gov't has a responsibility to its citizens beyond defense, schools and bridges. I support our Constitution, as written in 1787. I support the amendments as added. I DO NOT support the legal maneuvering this current administration has tried to use to curtail those rights.
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Political parties with Parliamentary representation:

Labour. Originally socialist although haven't used that term in years. Support compulsory national ID cards, EU membership, extensive CCTV, extensive speed cameras, extensive criminal record database, DNA database, corporatised publicly-owned services, etc. Off the top of my head. Supported the war in Iraq.

Conservatives. Tory party, as was. As above + more eco taxes but less inheritance tax.

Liberal Democrats. Descended from the late, great Liberal Party. Against ID cards, against DNA database, opposed the war in Iraq. Otherwise as above.

UK Independence Party, UKIP. Opposes EU membership. Sceptical about man-made global warming and entirely against eco-taxes. Supports nuclear power. Advocates smaller government and less legislation. Supports lower taxes and large-scale simplification of tax system and benefit system. Mildly opposed the war in Iraq. Against corporatisation of public services but supports privatisation. Opposed to unlimited immigration to the United Kingdom. Would implement points system.

UKIP is the smallest major political party in the House of Commons with 1 MP. We have 2 members of the House of Lords.

Plaid Cymru are Welsh Nationalists, Forward Wales are socialist Welsh Unionists who support devolution.

Scottish National Party, SNP, want Scottish Independence from the UK. Quite strong with several MP's and currently sit in government in Scotland.

Minor political parties:

Green Party. Eco-socialists. Support green taxes, support renewable power. Against nuclear power. Against corporatisation of public services and against privatisation. Mildy against EU membership. Some members are fully pro-EU, others are fully anti-EU and others still are eurosceptic which means they want lots of reform in the EU. Against ID cards and such databases but support extensive speed cameras and traffic calming measures.

British National Party, BNP. Opposes EU membership but for different reasons than UKIP. Entirely opposed to immigration. Wishes to "repatriate" immigrants and their descendants. Against free trade, supports tarrifs for imports. Likes to portray themselves as stronger than the other small political parties on the basis of more numerous council seats and 1 London Assembly member. Punch much above their weight but do not be fooled.

Liberal Party, last remnant of the Liberal Party. Small, fairly strong in local government in certain areas. Liverpool, for example. Against continuing UK membership of the EU. Against ID cards, against more government databases. Support free trade. Globalist element wants world government but I haven't seen anyone who actually supports this idea in their forums.

English political parties are too numerous to mention. They are all very small with little or no councilors, some want English Independence from the UK and some want an English Parliament similar to the Scottish Parliament.
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Alex, thank you very much. That was what I was looking for. But please, any others feel free to pass on their thoughts.
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Britain is a fake democracy. Smoke and mirrors are applied by the mainstream media, to give the illusion that there is real democracy and choice in the country.

What we actually have is a one party state, that follows its orders slavishly from the EU. The EU itself is a fake sham, with a small bunch of unelected crooks, telling countries what they have to do.

These crooks are in turn told what to do by the worlds rich and powerful elite.

As long as the media is subservient to its paymasters, this scam will continued to be played out. Some question why the elites would even care about "locking down" power, if the people already are hypnotised into thinking they are free. The reason for this is once you get power, strange things start to happen.

Think Lord of the Rings. The precious corrupts and makes the wearer paranoid and ever more desperate that they shall never lose the precious.

Same applies here. While technology is very useful to the control masters, it is also seen as a threat by them. They fear the falling influence of the old media, but are working hard on making sure the new media is just as good, if not better for them.

Never the less, they will continue to put measures in place, that will make it easier and easier for them to control the masses. Whether this will reach to heights of madness suffered by tyrants in the past, is anyones guess. The odds do not look good.
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