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Richard Barnbrook: The art-school liberal who now won't allow blacks in his party - People, News - The Independent

Tom Wilde

According to the report, he says he has been off the booze for 20 days now, apparently in an attempt to get his ballerina fiancee to come back.

On the basis of that profile, it would be very easy to make fun of him. It sounds like he is screwed up and has screwed up. I hope he manages to get his life back together - at least it sounds like he is trying. And I hope he gives up all this far-right nonsense and goes back to doing some art.

I've read in various places in the past that some in his party want him to replace Griffin as leader. I can see why - he doesn't have Griffin's neo-nazi baggage and he has reached a more prominent elected position than anyone else in the BNP's dismal history. Still, I hope he resists the lure, as it will only draw him deeper into the bog. If he is lucky, Griffin will see him as a threat, boot him out of the party and he'll get his life back.

Sorry if this sounds condescending towards Barnbrook. It isn't meant to be, much as I detest his politics.

Vortex

An interesting piece and on the whole reasonably unbiased. However I think the use of black and white as opposed to colour photography was a subliminal attempt to create sinister undertones.

To be honest I have never seen Richard intoxicated, and I have campaigned in London a few times, what he always seemed to me was so passionately wound up to project his views that he would rush his words.

I don't think anyone from UKIP can hold the moral high ground on alcohol abuse though, having read reports of post session hospitality in the EU parliament!

Cheers Nige!

For_England

For once I agree with most of what you have said. I hope for his sake that he does kick the bottle permanently, because it is obviously not helping him reach his potential. And yes, I wonder how long before Griffin and Barnbrook fall out. Until now, most of his inner circle have had serious issues which make the party unelectable. He is the first exception.

HM

I couldn't have put it better myself.

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Like The Roman

I am quite sure you couldn´t have.

Personally, I would need to read the full quote before commenting on whether or not it is a threat. I think it has probably been carefully edited, though I fear that if mass-immigration continues unabated and the politicians continue to ignore the people he may well be right, especially if the forecasted recession becomes a depression.

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Shaun

Perhaps he's 'inciting hatred'.
Let's have a couple of trials.

alfred the great

How can somebody who claims to be a liberal party supporter post on a patriotic forum like this . His party beleives in massive immigration , is pro europe , pro homosexuality. Ante hanging . This is everything we have had 40 years of. No wonder hundreds of thousands of people are leaving this sinking ship . Tom i hope your grandkids forgive you.

Ken

I am afraid he's right Tom. You have betrayed your children and grandchildren like most posters on here. You need to sit down and have a long, think. Reflect on the consequences of your actions. That applies to all the UKIPs, liberals and Libertarians.

Tom Wilde

That's a bit like a German nationalist circa 1928 telling a German liberal that he is betraying his children and grandchildren (and his Volk?) and should have a rethink. Didn't turn out that way, did it? The self-proclaimed super-patriots took their country into a vast war which killed untold numbers of those children and left every German city a body-strewn smoking ruin. The evil men they helped put in power - well, we know what they did, and Germans today still feel a sense of shame about it. After the German nationalists had tested their theories (and their country) to destruction, the liberals and social democrats and moderate conservatives picked up the pieces. Don't talk to me about patriotism.

We all have to make the best judgement we can about what will be in the interests of our children and grandchildren and take that into account when casting our ballots, and that is what I am doing. I want them to live in a Britain which preserves the traditional British virtues of tolerance, democracy and personal freedom. For me, that is patriotism.