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The long-standing, and sole, leader of the anti-EU Democratic Unionist Party Dr Iain Paisley will stand down this weekend and hand the leadership to Peter Robinson.
BBC NEWS | Northern Ireland | DUP farewell to founder Paisley What future now for the DUP? There's talk of a possible merger with the Ulster Unionist Party (though this is remote) and the party has looked at revamping its image post-Paisley for a few years now, with possible ideas being expanding into the British mainland - offices have already been opened in Liverpool and also the possibility of expanding into London and Glasgow have been mooted (not too long ago there were even wild and unfounded rumours of a merger between the DUP and UKIP! - (Iain Dale's Diary: More Evidence of UKIP/BNP Co-operation?) Could this herald a meger with UKIP or at least closer co-operation? Will the movement die down now their charismatic leader has left, or will it instead be able to grow further and expand its reach and support without the stigma many people attached to Paisley? Last edited by 22ANDUK; 30-05-2008 at 08:08 PM. |
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There happens to be only 3 winnable constituencies left for the DUP. With changing demographics of Northern Ireland the only way for DUP is down unless something impressive happens - but what? Any ideas on which will be the first DUP constituency to be lost to Sinn Fein?
I don't think a DUP and UKIP merger is feasible due to issues relating to religion. A UUP and Conservative merger may happen in the future.
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An increasing Roman catholic population in some constituencies in Northern Ireland does not mean a declining vote for the Unionist parties in those seats. Some Roman Catholics have always voted for Unionist candidates.
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Do I see an opportunity for UKIP?
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Best thing the DUP could do is expand into Great Britain as a Unionist Right Wing Populist party.
I have no doubt they would get seats in the Scottish Parliament right away.
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I'm far from an expert with Scottish politics, but haven't most of the Protestant unionists in Scotland that would have been inclined to vote DUP vanished down the same plughole of history as the Protestant unionists in Liverpool? I have been verbally informed that Glasgow is rapidly becoming a dustbin city for the underclass of society that is only interested in their council flats and benefit money.
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Instead, a union between UKIP and the DUP would be needed. The "UK Democratic Unionist Party" (or whatever its name would be) would command at the first instance: * Over 30,000 members * 9 MPs * 9 MEPS * 36 Members of the Nortnern Ireland Assembly * 5 Lords * Over 100 Councillors This ready-made party would have experienced politicans with governmental experience, plus with the situation of nearly 50 full-time figures a sizeable annual income to party funds. The party would have have two bases in London and Belfast - helping it to become a truly British movement - and the large of amount of catholics that support UKIP and even the DUP, combined with the protestant wing of the DUP (now without Paisley) would hopefully see a healthy, non-sectarian mix. It would attract many of genuine conservtavies within the Tory party who will displaced should Cameron take over after a couple of years, I do not doubt either that people such as the English Democrats would supplement this too. most of all it will probably also attract a sizeable portion of the millions who have an interest in politics but no longer vote. A few issues would be what to name the party and who should lead it, but the strengths would easily outweight these - with this movement supplying a strong and vibrant movement that has a strong mix of conservative and libertarian values, supports the religious, traditional and cultural bases of the nation whilst also favouring a free-marker economy in an independent Britain. It can work. |
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