Der Griffin-Jugend

Vortex · 27-05-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Harris Morgan

Maybe I also ought to mention the Nick Griffin quote "Holohoax"?

Maybe I could mention one Alistair Harper (UKIP candidate in the 2001 General Election for Dunfermline West) who was heavily involved in the "pan-Nordic" and neo-nazi Northern League. In the 1970s fromer British Union of Fascists Organizer Tony Hancock held a weekend get together for the NL in Brighton where the guests of honour were two former officers of the SS.

Or maybe Alistair McConnachie, UKIPs Scottish organizer who was suspended from the party for a year for questioning the extent of the Holocaust?

But then I don't for one minute think these people reflect the opinions of most UKIP members anymore than a few silly remarks captured by secret camera by someone who bitterly regrets them does the BNP.

Remember secret cameras are designed to catch people off guard (like Tom Wise). Its a pity they aren't used on the three old gang parties.

The Wanderer · 27-05-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Harris Morgan

As IndependentUKIP has said, why would you teach adults "how to write in good English" and why would this event be directly linked with the BNP Youth, if not for the sake of indoctrinating young people?

And for whoever tried to put down my comparisons of the BNP with the 1930s Nazis, maybe you should look at Nick Collett, one of your own, who said:

* "the Jews have been thrown out of every country including England. It's not just persecution. There's no smoke without fire."
* "Hitler will live on forever"
* "Would you prefer your kid growing up in Oldham and Burnley or 1930s Germany? It would be better for your child to grow up there."

This guy used to manage the Young BNP and now, I believe, writes for the party's newspaper. He will undoubtedly be in attendance at the Summer Camp, spreading his vile messages of anti-semitism and racial hatred.

No party deserves "credit" for indoctrinating people into fascism.

You're just starting to sound desperate and hysterical now.

HM · 27-05-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wanderer

You're just starting to sound desperate and hysterical now.

How so?

Because I am able to freely find high-ranking BNP members who are openly racist like the overwhelming majority of its voters?

Or because you have no more to say?

Independence Now! · 27-05-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Harris Morgan

As IndependentUKIP has said, why would you teach adults "how to write in good English" and why would this event be directly linked with the BNP Youth, if not for the sake of indoctrinating young people?

And for whoever tried to put down my comparisons of the BNP with the 1930s Nazis, maybe you should look at Nick Collett, one of your own, who said:

* "the Jews have been thrown out of every country including England. It's not just persecution. There's no smoke without fire."
* "Hitler will live on forever"
* "Would you prefer your kid growing up in Oldham and Burnley or 1930s Germany? It would be better for your child to grow up there."

This guy used to manage the Young BNP and now, I believe, writes for the party's newspaper. He will undoubtedly be in attendance at the Summer Camp, spreading his vile messages of anti-semitism and racial hatred.

No party deserves "credit" for indoctrinating people into fascism.

Grow up! The BNP is a nationalist, anti-immigration party that wishes to ensure the British people remain a majority in their own country. The REAL fascists belong to the Lib/Lab/CON parties - the evil troika of anti-British hate and perpetual treason.

If the BNP is 'anti-semitic' then how comes it has Jewish members and a Jewish councillor then?

Independence Now! · 27-05-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Harris Morgan

How so?

Because I am able to freely find high-ranking BNP members who are openly racist like the overwhelming majority of its voters?

Or because you have no more to say?

Define what you mean by that over used word racism then. The BNP ISN'T racist on any normal definition of the term. Wanting to preserve a homeland for an indigenous people ISN'T racism. Infact, it is the very opposite of it. The UN would agree with me on this point. It is only the PC fanatics of Lib/Lab/CON who wish to ensure the British people don't have a homeland of their own and are therefore genuinely racist.

C_steam · 27-05-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

Ah ha C.Steam. I'm not the only one that knows what goes on at OU summer schools then!

I don't remember much about them..............Unless you're Brunette, petite build, about 5'4" and were at stirling in................

Vortex · 27-05-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

I don't remember much about them..............Unless you're Brunette, petite build, about 5'4" and were at stirling in................

Sorry mate I'm 6'1', large build and greying! But the tales we could tell, a sort of X rated version of Educating Rita!

blueblood1920 · 27-05-2008, 08:07 PM

Harris is just a crank who thinks by bashing the BNP he will save UKIP from there death bed and take them to power in the UK.

HM · 27-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Racism: Prejudice or discrimination based on an individual's race; can be expressed individually or through institutional policies or practices.

Last time I checked, UKIP had more power in both the UK and Europe than the BNP.

Having a token Jew does not make a party not anti-Semitic. And I'm amazed at what Judaism and Christianity seem to have that Islam doesn't. Is it just because you're too thick and prejudiced to open your eyes past the suicide bombings to see that Islam is actually not advocating this?
And why would Collett and Griffin voice their clearly quite Nazi views about Judaism if they didn't intend to adhibit it in their common factor: the BNP?

Being under both voting and membership age I'm not quite sure how I am supposed to take UKIP "to power in the UK". But ita vita hominum est, eh?

The Wanderer · 27-05-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Harris Morgan

How so?

Because I am able to freely find high-ranking BNP members who are openly racist like the overwhelming majority of its voters?

Or because you have no more to say?

You're talking through your ****. You came on stating this was some sort of 'hitler youth' camp, you've been told and anybody with a bit of common sense would undertsand, that it is nothing of the sort. Trying to change the subject isn't going to stop you from looking like a plonker.

27-05-2008, 08:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
HM Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 995 Party: None	Racism: Prejudice or discrimination based on an individual's race; can be expressed individually or through institutional policies or practices. Last time I checked, UKIP had more power in both the UK and Europe than the BNP. Having a token Jew does not make a party not anti-Semitic. And I'm amazed at what Judaism and Christianity seem to have that Islam doesn't. Is it just because you're too thick and prejudiced to open your eyes past the suicide bombings to see that Islam is actually not advocating this? And why would Collett and Griffin voice their clearly quite Nazi views about Judaism if they didn't intend to adhibit it in their common factor: the BNP? Being under both voting and membership age I'm not quite sure how I am supposed to take UKIP "to power in the UK". But ita vita hominum est, eh? __________________ Respice post te; hominem te esse memento!

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27-05-2008, 08:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
blueblood1920 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,248 Party: BNP	Harris is just a crank who thinks by bashing the BNP he will save UKIP from there death bed and take them to power in the UK.