Political bias in the Courts

British-Conservatism · 25-05-2008, 10:14 AM

Julia Barker, Keith’s common-law wife, was in the witness box today. She came across as cool and collected as well as being precise with her evidence. On several occasions she was told by the defending barrister that the Khans had received death threats from Keith and their son Ashley. Julia strenuously denied this and said it was the other way round, telling the jury that Habib Khan had ” threatened to set fire to her son.” She also added that Khan had threatened to kill Keith Brown stating to a hushed court, ” he did what he had threatened, he did kill Keith Brown.”

A local man, Mr Mahmood, who knew Mr Khan from the local mosque, said that he saw Keith Brown lying on the pavement bleeding and his son Ashley in his garden with obvious head wounds. He stated that he saw Mr Khan with blood around the chest area of his Asian clothing and his sons standing where Keith Brown was lying motionless. He added that there were eight Asian men standing in Mr Khan’s drive and eight Asian women watching on the lawn at the front of his house.

Another local witness Stephen Oultram, who the court was told, was a carpet fitter on his way home from work, said in a statement read to the court that he saw Keith with a “river of blood” coming from him.

Forensic evidence from Christopher Lloyd furnished the court with the fact that clothing recovered from Habib Khan was heavily bloodstained around the chest area and sleeves. A wheel brace, the court was told, not only had traces of Ashley’s blood but also of Keith’s. Mr Lloyd also stated that a penknife handed over by one of Mr Khan’s sons allegedly used by Keith Brown to threaten them contained no DNA evidence whatsoever to connect Keith with the weapon.

A PC Lynch, then took to the witness box, who explained to the court that he had no knowledge of a brick that had been handed to him allegedly used by Keith Brown to threaten the Khans.

The judge brought the day’s proceedings to a close at 3:15 having deemed that it would be better that the second batch of forensic evidence should be offered tomorrow.

Kevin Adamson · 25-05-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

So let’s just think how you might have felt had it been you who had been through the stuff that Khan had been through and had just been told by your daughter that some piece of violent racist filth next door was strangling your son.

I know fine well that I would not have done what Khan is alleged to have done, I wouldn’t have waited for the tw@ to fall onto my knife, I’d have run him through without a moments hesitation.

Oh I would have had him sorted months ago, making sure of course I was 500 miles away at the time.

British-Conservatism · 25-05-2008, 10:16 AM

At a later interview in the Northern Area Custody Unit, Mr Khan had stated that Keith Brown said he would kill him and that he was frightened of Mr Brown. He stated that he hit Keith with a pointed wheel brace which penetrated Keith’s body. The WPC was told that both men had fallen to the ground with Keith falling onto the sharp wheel brace forcing it further into his body.

A post-mortem statement was then given to the court which stated that the wounds Keith had suffered were caused by a knife and not a wheel brace. The jury was told that a wheel brace found in the bathroom of Mr Khan’s house did not have a pointed end it has a rounded end. Mr Khan had stated that he did not know how the wheel brace had come to be in his bathroom.

Further to this, some days later on during Mr Khan’s seventh police interview the police told him that they had found a knife, Khan then said, “I have something to tell you, I’ve decided to tell the truth.” In the statement Mr Khan had said that he was in his kitchen when he heard a commotion outside, he picked up a knife and went outside with the knife. On going down the drive Mr Khan said he saw Mr Brown holding one of his sons by the throat. He said he ran to help his son and put the knife to Mr Brown’s back and pushed into in. The jury was told that Habib Khan had stated that he and Keith Brown fell down and in the process the knife went in further to Keith’s body.

Later in the morning the court was told that the police had found a computer video of the incident hidden in a wardrobe in Mr Khan’s house. Moreover, in a statement Mr Khan admitted to taking a wheel brace putting Keith Brown’s blood on it and placing it in his car.

In effect the day ended at 12:30 when the jury were sent out until tomorrow morning as submissions by the two sets of barristers were put before the judge.

Just one other thing to add, several Muslim men were present in the public gallery some of whom were trying to intimidate onlookers and reporters with “death stares”.

British-Conservatism · 25-05-2008, 10:18 AM

During the cross-examination of the accused, Habib Khan, the court heard that he was not born in England but in fact came to England from Pakistan in 1976. He got married in 1980 and had six children. In the 1980’s he went back to Pakistan for one year and then returned to Pakistan for a further four years from 1994 to 1998. In 1990 he bought a house in the Normacott area of the city. On returning back to Britain he bought a kebab shop in Newcastle-under-Lyme, a few years later he bought Kebabworld in the Longton area of Stoke-on-Trent.
Mr Khan stated that he went running out this house when he saw his son being held in a head lock by Keith Brown but did not see his other son fighting with Keith’s son Ashley. He told the court he tapped Mr Brown on his shoulder and told him to let go of his son, “I have a Knife” he said.

He stated that Mr Brown saw him and that he had the knife in his right hand, “I put the knife into Mr Brown’s back and he fell over me falling backwards on top of me to the ground. I pulled a knife out of his back and ran to my drive and handed the knife to someone, I do not remember who. I have never seen so much blood in all of my life. I then went to my car and took out a wheel brace and covered in blood onto the wheel brace so I could tell the police I had done it with a wheel brace. I did not intend to mislead the police. I did not hit anybody with a wheel brace. I dipped the wheel brace in Mr Brown’s blood.”

Mr Khan was then asked, “what did you do with that wheel brace that you had got in your hand.” Mr Khan replied, “nothing”. Mr Khan insisted he tried to call his son away from Ashley who was under Keith Brown’s four-wheel-drive vehicle. It was suggested that this wheel brace had been used to hit Ashley because police forensics found traces of both Keith Brown’s and his son’s blood on the weapon. It was pointed out that Keith Brown was lying motionless on the ground at the front of this four-wheel-drive vehicle on the footpath while all of this was going on. Mr Khan was seen then at the side of the 4 x 4 beckoning both of his sons to come to him.

During the incident and in the aftermath at no time were either the police or the ambulance service called by the accused. Then at about 4:20pm Mr Khan interrupted his cross-examination to ask the judge if he could go to the mosque. The judge considered this request but denied it as it was coming to the end of the day’s proceedings. Nevertheless the trial was adjourned at this point until 1030 tomorrow morning and the jury was this dismissed for the day.

blueblood1920 · 25-05-2008, 10:18 AM

The court case made it out that Brown was the racist, however there was nothing to prove that whatso ever. It is known that Brown used to take asians to work in his car with him, but Brown got upset with what his neighbour was doing with his house. WE all know we can not object to something an asian/muslim does or we are racists automatically.

You people sicken me who say this poor man got what is coming to him, go and say that to his wife and children who are now left without a father, you filthy dirty little cretins.

British-Conservatism · 25-05-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ranter

Oh I would have had him sorted months ago, making sure of course I was 500 miles away at the time.

What would you do if your Asian neighbours ran a year long terror campaign against you?

Kevin Adamson · 25-05-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

What would you do if your Asian neighbours ran a year long terror campaign against you?

The same would apply.

Populist Lee · 25-05-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

What would you do if your Asian neighbours ran a year long terror campaign against you?

If the BNP are unable to protect their own people . . . ???

The Wanderer · 25-05-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

I absolutely agree. Justifiable homicide if ever there was a case.

The REAL issue should be how was Brown permitted to get away with what he was doing?

I can't believe you just said that you sick *******!

Imperium · 25-05-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear

So let’s just think how you might have felt had it been you who had been through the stuff that Khan had been through and had just been told by your daughter that some piece of violent racist filth next door was strangling your son.

I know fine well that I would not have done what Khan is alleged to have done, I wouldn’t have waited for the tw@ to fall onto my knife, I’d have run him through without a moments hesitation.

An expression of the love of god no doubt?

25-05-2008, 10:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
British-Conservatism Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,316	Julia Barker, Keith’s common-law wife, was in the witness box today. She came across as cool and collected as well as being precise with her evidence. On several occasions she was told by the defending barrister that the Khans had received death threats from Keith and their son Ashley. Julia strenuously denied this and said it was the other way round, telling the jury that Habib Khan had ” threatened to set fire to her son.” She also added that Khan had threatened to kill Keith Brown stating to a hushed court, ” he did what he had threatened, he did kill Keith Brown.” A local man, Mr Mahmood, who knew Mr Khan from the local mosque, said that he saw Keith Brown lying on the pavement bleeding and his son Ashley in his garden with obvious head wounds. He stated that he saw Mr Khan with blood around the chest area of his Asian clothing and his sons standing where Keith Brown was lying motionless. He added that there were eight Asian men standing in Mr Khan’s drive and eight Asian women watching on the lawn at the front of his house. Another local witness Stephen Oultram, who the court was told, was a carpet fitter on his way home from work, said in a statement read to the court that he saw Keith with a “river of blood” coming from him. Forensic evidence from Christopher Lloyd furnished the court with the fact that clothing recovered from Habib Khan was heavily bloodstained around the chest area and sleeves. A wheel brace, the court was told, not only had traces of Ashley’s blood but also of Keith’s. Mr Lloyd also stated that a penknife handed over by one of Mr Khan’s sons allegedly used by Keith Brown to threaten them contained no DNA evidence whatsoever to connect Keith with the weapon. A PC Lynch, then took to the witness box, who explained to the court that he had no knowledge of a brick that had been handed to him allegedly used by Keith Brown to threaten the Khans. The judge brought the day’s proceedings to a close at 3:15 having deemed that it would be better that the second batch of forensic evidence should be offered tomorrow. __________________ http://conservativedemocraticalliance.blogspot.com/

25-05-2008, 10:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
British-Conservatism Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,316	At a later interview in the Northern Area Custody Unit, Mr Khan had stated that Keith Brown said he would kill him and that he was frightened of Mr Brown. He stated that he hit Keith with a pointed wheel brace which penetrated Keith’s body. The WPC was told that both men had fallen to the ground with Keith falling onto the sharp wheel brace forcing it further into his body. A post-mortem statement was then given to the court which stated that the wounds Keith had suffered were caused by a knife and not a wheel brace. The jury was told that a wheel brace found in the bathroom of Mr Khan’s house did not have a pointed end it has a rounded end. Mr Khan had stated that he did not know how the wheel brace had come to be in his bathroom. Further to this, some days later on during Mr Khan’s seventh police interview the police told him that they had found a knife, Khan then said, “I have something to tell you, I’ve decided to tell the truth.” In the statement Mr Khan had said that he was in his kitchen when he heard a commotion outside, he picked up a knife and went outside with the knife. On going down the drive Mr Khan said he saw Mr Brown holding one of his sons by the throat. He said he ran to help his son and put the knife to Mr Brown’s back and pushed into in. The jury was told that Habib Khan had stated that he and Keith Brown fell down and in the process the knife went in further to Keith’s body. Later in the morning the court was told that the police had found a computer video of the incident hidden in a wardrobe in Mr Khan’s house. Moreover, in a statement Mr Khan admitted to taking a wheel brace putting Keith Brown’s blood on it and placing it in his car. In effect the day ended at 12:30 when the jury were sent out until tomorrow morning as submissions by the two sets of barristers were put before the judge. Just one other thing to add, several Muslim men were present in the public gallery some of whom were trying to intimidate onlookers and reporters with “death stares”. __________________ http://conservativedemocraticalliance.blogspot.com/

25-05-2008, 10:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
British-Conservatism Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,316	During the cross-examination of the accused, Habib Khan, the court heard that he was not born in England but in fact came to England from Pakistan in 1976. He got married in 1980 and had six children. In the 1980’s he went back to Pakistan for one year and then returned to Pakistan for a further four years from 1994 to 1998. In 1990 he bought a house in the Normacott area of the city. On returning back to Britain he bought a kebab shop in Newcastle-under-Lyme, a few years later he bought Kebabworld in the Longton area of Stoke-on-Trent. Mr Khan stated that he went running out this house when he saw his son being held in a head lock by Keith Brown but did not see his other son fighting with Keith’s son Ashley. He told the court he tapped Mr Brown on his shoulder and told him to let go of his son, “I have a Knife” he said. He stated that Mr Brown saw him and that he had the knife in his right hand, “I put the knife into Mr Brown’s back and he fell over me falling backwards on top of me to the ground. I pulled a knife out of his back and ran to my drive and handed the knife to someone, I do not remember who. I have never seen so much blood in all of my life. I then went to my car and took out a wheel brace and covered in blood onto the wheel brace so I could tell the police I had done it with a wheel brace. I did not intend to mislead the police. I did not hit anybody with a wheel brace. I dipped the wheel brace in Mr Brown’s blood.” Mr Khan was then asked, “what did you do with that wheel brace that you had got in your hand.” Mr Khan replied, “nothing”. Mr Khan insisted he tried to call his son away from Ashley who was under Keith Brown’s four-wheel-drive vehicle. It was suggested that this wheel brace had been used to hit Ashley because police forensics found traces of both Keith Brown’s and his son’s blood on the weapon. It was pointed out that Keith Brown was lying motionless on the ground at the front of this four-wheel-drive vehicle on the footpath while all of this was going on. Mr Khan was seen then at the side of the 4 x 4 beckoning both of his sons to come to him. During the incident and in the aftermath at no time were either the police or the ambulance service called by the accused. Then at about 4:20pm Mr Khan interrupted his cross-examination to ask the judge if he could go to the mosque. The judge considered this request but denied it as it was coming to the end of the day’s proceedings. Nevertheless the trial was adjourned at this point until 1030 tomorrow morning and the jury was this dismissed for the day. __________________ http://conservativedemocraticalliance.blogspot.com/

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25-05-2008, 10:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
blueblood1920 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,248 Party: BNP	The court case made it out that Brown was the racist, however there was nothing to prove that whatso ever. It is known that Brown used to take asians to work in his car with him, but Brown got upset with what his neighbour was doing with his house. WE all know we can not object to something an asian/muslim does or we are racists automatically. You people sicken me who say this poor man got what is coming to him, go and say that to his wife and children who are now left without a father, you filthy dirty little cretins.