BonnieDundee

Well at least they did one thing right. Not everything they do has to be completely evil Britannist.

Proportional representation is more democratic.

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Leopold Kohr.

Westcountryman

I agree, PR for EU elections is preferable to FPTP.

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Independence Now!

Virtually any voting system is more democratic than FPTP. The only justification for FPTP is when you have two major parties - one of which is broadly on the 'Left' and one broadly on the 'Right' but we don't have that nowdays and the FPTP doesn't allow the diversity of political opinions in Britain to be properly expressed.

blueblood1920

That little fascist should **** off back to Europe.

Hartlepool

Which little fascist would that be then?

Independence Now!

The Tory MP! Infact, it might be a good idea to suggest Tories resettle in Cuba. That country would make them feel at home!

g hall

Britannist
Funny that under FPTP my MP, who is Labour ignores what I and other UKIP members have to say so much for a link

This bloke is just scared that he might lose all his goodies

The problem is that in some constituencies you can put a monkey up with a Red/Blue (delete to choice) and they would be voted in , in fact there are some monkey's who would probably be better at the job then some elected representatives

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Mikeuk

The present system is determined by the EU so this Blulabour Polack is farting against thunder.

Roll on PR in the Westminster elections. It will man the Tories never lead another government again.

a swansong 4 europe

The Europhiles are scared that UKIP would win big under PR?! You mean just like they DIDN'T in London, Wales and Scotland! Come, let's be at least realistic about this, no such talk was made after the Euro 2004 results.

This topic has only come to the head since the BNP NEARLY won a seat in the Welsh Assembly elections, and DID win a seat in the London Assembly, that is the ONLY reason the talk is about scrapping PR, because "they" are truly worried about the rise of the BNP and their probable winning of at least one or possibly two/three seats should the BNP increase its share of the percentage vote by at least 25% to around 6%+ in the Euro elections next year.

Britannist

UKIP won 12 seats in the last EU Election and if the same voting system used in those election were used in a UK General Election UKIP would win seats in the Commons.

Since UKIP won big in the last EU Election, the pro-proportional representation (PR) europhile Liberal 'Democrats' have gone very quiet about 'electoral reform' as have other pro-PR europhiles in other parties.

As for the London Assembly (referred to above) - UKIP won two seats on that in 2004. Those who set up the London Assembly assumed that UKIP would not win a single seat on it. Although UKIP no longer holds those two seats - the party has proved it can win and its intention is that it will win again.