President of the United Kingdom

yaro · 18-05-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Yes - The lowest ever opinion poll rating for the UK Monarchy (in opinion polls carried out in the UK) put support for The Crown higher here than the highest ever opinion poll rating the French Presidency has received in France.

I don't understand what you are suggesting. If French people don't like French Presidency, then what do they want? French do not support monarchy.

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Originally Posted by Britannist

It is possible to walk in the grounds of Buckingham Palace - the Palace is open to visitors throughout the Summer. Unlike the Palaces of most Presidents around the world.

Thanks, last time I was in London in January 2005, and everything was closed.

rjt · 18-05-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

He (Salmond - leader of the Scottish 'National' Party) only does so because he needs the votes of some Scottish Monarchists if he is to win an independence from the UK referendum.

I am convinced that the europhile Scottish 'National' Party would turn Scotland into a republic if they managed to get power in Scotland were she outside the UK.

I would suspect Salmond has been faced with a few harsh realitys since he came to power and one of those would have been an underestimation, a common fault amongst those who seek to abolish the monarchy of the real affection held for HMQ throughout the UK. He would indeed need the supports of monarchists and he has been questioned quite sharply on a number of occasions on the subject and has met HRH The Prince of Wales to discuss the matter.

Westcountryman · 18-05-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

It is possible to walk in the grounds of Buckingham Palace - the Palace is open to visitors throughout the Summer. Unlike the Palaces of most Presidents around the world.

I knew the public could access some areas of Buckingham Palace, but never having been inside I wasn't sure to what extent members of the public were allowed access.

Imperium · 18-05-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

The Queen is the symbol of a (supposed) United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. However, as the monarchy these days seems to exist to perpetuate itself rather than the nation, it is quite conceivable that she and her descendants would happily "rule" over a vassal state of the EUSSR as it would the nation state of Great Britain.

When I was asked which side I would have joined in the English Civil War, I researched the subject and decided that I would have supported Cromwell. I remain true to that view, but one important point needs to be added and its a very valid point. Cromwell never wanted to abolish the monarchy. He wanted an accountable monarchy dedicated to serving the people not the other way round. His hand was forced by the machinations of Charles I and his obsessional belief in the divine right of kings.

I therefore conclude that the institution of monarchy is an ancient British tradition that should be continued, but that the monarch must sit at his or her throne by the will of the people and serve them well, even in the face of standing up to such tyranny as those that seek world government by international finance or the EU superstae.

It never ceases to amaze me how you republicans first of all emasculate the monarch, strip him of his powers and then moan buckets full when they fail to exercise a power that they no longer possess!

Imperium · 18-05-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yaro

Haha, 1 more reason why it can't happen. UK is a well known "brand". You would have to replace all passports, rename the country in many texts, reprint all pounds.

In Europe, monarchies were usually abolished after some sort of revolution or war, not in peace time.

The only way how it could happen would be if northern ireland, scotland and wales decided to declare independence. Then England would become a republic.

Why would England become a republic? Explain your reasoning!

Britannist · 18-05-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by yaro

Britannist wrote: Yes - The lowest ever opinion poll rating for the UK Monarchy (in opinion polls carried out in the UK) put support for The Crown higher here than the highest ever opinion poll rating the French Presidency has received in France.

Yaro wrote: I don't understand what you are suggesting. If French people don't like French Presidency, then what do they want?

I was stating the fact that the lowest level of support in opinion polls (carried out in the UK) for the British Monarchy were higher than the highest levels of support ever recorded (in opinion polls carried out in France) for the French Presidency in France.

I think most people reading this understand perfectly well the point I am making.

Britannist · 18-05-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by yaro

Britannist wrote: It is possible to walk in the grounds of Buckingham Palace - the Palace is open to visitors throughout the Summer. Unlike the Palaces of most Presidents around the world.

Yaro wrote: Thanks, last time I was in London in January 2005, and everything was closed.

Oh dear. Sorry you missed the chance to visit the interior of Buckingham Palace and the grounds.

Buckingham Palace is open to the public in the Summer (please check on the Buckingham Palace before your next visit for the exact dates and times and where to book tickets in advance).

The Tower of London exhibition of the Crown Jewels is not open for part of the Winter, by the way (if you wish to go there for a visit - please check on the Tower of London website for exact dates and times of opening and for details of how to book tickets in advance).

Britannist · 18-05-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperium

Yaro wrote: The only way how it could happen would be if Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales decided to declare independence. Then England would become a republic.

Imperium asked Yaro: Why would England become a republic? Explain your reasoning!

We've already been a republic of course, of course - long before most other countries (i.e. 'Lord Protector' Cromwell) and didn't like it.

Britannist · 18-05-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

I knew the public could access some areas of Buckingham Palace, but never having been inside I wasn't sure to what extent members of the public were allowed access.

The tour around Buckingham Palace is changed every year or so to take in different rooms. After going through the tour inside the Palace (which includes the paintings room and the The Throne room), one can walk through the gardens at the back of the Palace to leave via the Grosvenor Place exit (calling, if one wishes to, at the tourist souvenir shop on the edge of the Palace Gardens on the way out).

The Queen's Gallery at Buckingham Palace (Buckingham Palace Road side) started opening to the public before the tours of some Palace rooms and the gardens commenced in the early 1990s - more about this on this excellent and highly impressive website:

Royal Residences > The Queen's Gallery at Buckingham Palace

Imperium · 18-05-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

We've already been a republic of course, of course - long before most other countries (i.e. 'Lord Protector' Cromwell) and didn't like it.

Indeed and was it not that king killer Cromwell who allowed in the jewish money lenders again after an interval of 400 years?

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