What now for the 'Left List'?

22ANDUK · 11-05-2008, 07:32 PM

The Left List, represented by Lindsey German, in the London Mayoral elections was the moniker for the 'Respect Coalition' - another name for this party of many names.

RESPECT - The Unity Coalition - News

The group was over-shadowed by pracitically most of the other candidiates (surprisingly including UKIP and the English Democrats BBC NEWS | Election 2008 | London Mayoral Election 2008).

Was this the result of a surge in Leftist support for Livingstone to stave off a Boris Johnson challenge or is Respect/Left List - a movement that returned George Galloway to Parliament in only 2005 facing a tricky future?

How will this party, so much like the old Labour Socialists, fare in the near future? A steady growth under the collapse of New Labour or a Leftist 'Flash in the Pan?

blueblood1920 · 11-05-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 22ANDUK

The Left List, represented by Lindsey German, in the London Mayoral elections was the moniker for the 'Respect Coalition' - another name for this party of many names.

RESPECT - The Unity Coalition - News

The group was over-shadowed by pracitically most of the other candidiates (surprisingly including UKIP and the English Democrats BBC NEWS | Election 2008 | London Mayoral Election 2008).

Was this the result of a surge in Leftist support for Livingstone to stave off a Boris Johnson challenge or is Respect/Left List - a movement that returned George Galloway to Parliament in only 2005 facing a tricky future?

How will this party, so much like the old Labour Socialists, fare in the near future? A steady growth under the collapse of New Labour or a Leftist 'Flash in the Pan?

The left is dead, and any affort they could of put into promoting themselves they waisted on smearing the BNP. The left is dead, long live the BNP!

Dissident Congress · 11-05-2008, 10:32 PM

The Left List is the Socialist Alliance reincarnated and is largely comprised of the SWP faction of Respect. It is likely to become a noisy but irrelevant force in politics just like the Socialist Alliance was.

Most of the Islamic faction of Respect are with Galloway. This may well be hijacked by extremists in the future.

BonnieDundee · 11-05-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

The Left List is the Socialist Alliance reincarnated and is largely comprised of the SWP faction of Respect. It is likely to become a noisy but irrelevant force in politics just like the Socialist Alliance was.

Much like alot of the parties around here then?

Smidgey · 11-05-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

The left is dead, and any affort they could of put into promoting themselves they waisted on smearing the BNP. The left is dead, long live the BNP!

The left have always fought with one another (because they know they cannot fight with the right and win). The left-wing socialists fighting with the left-wing BNP (with their left wing collectivist and socialist traits) is just another example of this.

BonnieDundee · 11-05-2008, 11:02 PM

And the rightwing tories fighting with the rightwing BNP. In fact such seems the behaviour of much of the non-mainstream parties.

The Right has often been collectivist? What was fuedalism if it wasn't collectivist. Are Edmund Burke, William the Conqueror and LouisXIV commies? Let's not destroy the already strained political lexicon please.

Westcountryman · 11-05-2008, 11:06 PM

The BNP are not right wing.

BonnieDundee · 11-05-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

The BNP are not right wing.

They are generally refered to as far right. If you want to rewrite the political lexicon to make rightwing individualist, small gov't and all things good and bright be my guest but I'm not using your usage.

Collectivism and big gov't have often been used by the right since the ultraconservatives sat on the rightin the French constituent and national assemblies.

In fact that is really the perfect indication that such things and their opposites are on both sides. In the French revolution you have collectivist, authoritarian rightists like some ultraconservatives and you had the Jacobins who were the same on the left and on the centre right you had the individualist and federalist Girondins and you had the decentralist and libertarian Enrages on the left who believed in the autonomy of directly democratic Paris sections.

mkpdavies · 12-05-2008, 01:42 PM

They are so far right, that they are left.

Collectivists, socialists, but with a racist tinge. I see nothing right wing about them.

Britannist · 12-05-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

The left is dead.....

No it is not (unfortunately). The left is inside a majority of the parties in the House of Commons and the 'broad liberal-left' is in control of much of the UK media, our education system and is openly active inside many of the Churches.

11-05-2008, 07:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
22ANDUK Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,438	What now for the 'Left List'? The Left List, represented by Lindsey German, in the London Mayoral elections was the moniker for the 'Respect Coalition' - another name for this party of many names. RESPECT - The Unity Coalition - News The group was over-shadowed by pracitically most of the other candidiates (surprisingly including UKIP and the English Democrats BBC NEWS \| Election 2008 \| London Mayoral Election 2008). Was this the result of a surge in Leftist support for Livingstone to stave off a Boris Johnson challenge or is Respect/Left List - a movement that returned George Galloway to Parliament in only 2005 facing a tricky future? How will this party, so much like the old Labour Socialists, fare in the near future? A steady growth under the collapse of New Labour or a Leftist 'Flash in the Pan?

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Dissident Congress Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 643	The Left List is the Socialist Alliance reincarnated and is largely comprised of the SWP faction of Respect. It is likely to become a noisy but irrelevant force in politics just like the Socialist Alliance was. Most of the Islamic faction of Respect are with Galloway. This may well be hijacked by extremists in the future. __________________ Dissident Congress Promoting Populist Patriotism Our Nation - Our People - Our Heritage - Our Future

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BonnieDundee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 2,354	And the rightwing tories fighting with the rightwing BNP. In fact such seems the behaviour of much of the non-mainstream parties. The Right has often been collectivist? What was fuedalism if it wasn't collectivist. Are Edmund Burke, William the Conqueror and LouisXIV commies? Let's not destroy the already strained political lexicon please. __________________ "It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -Bruce Schneier How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and pss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.* Edward Abbey Leopold Kohr.

11-05-2008, 11:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,919 Party: None	The BNP are not right wing. __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	They are so far right, that they are left. Collectivists, socialists, but with a racist tinge. I see nothing right wing about them. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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