News: "Labour better off without Brown say 55% of Labour supporters: new poll"

Britannist · 07-05-2008, 07:52 AM

55% of Labour voters want Gordon Brown out as Prime Minister and Labour Party leader, a new opinion poll by Populus for today's Times reveals. Labour is better off without him is the view of the majority of Labour supporters questioned.

Andrew Pierce, political editor of the Daily Telegraph, told Nick Ferrari's programme on LBC FM (independent news radio in London) at 8.39 am today "His (Brown's) personal opinion poll rating is as low as Blair's was in 2003 after the Iraq 'war' - it is now even lower than Liberal 'Democrat' leader Clegg's whose party also did not do well in last week's local and London elections."

Mr. Pierce added "There are two big icebergs on the horizon for Gordon Brown - the Crewe-Nantwich By-Election (22.5.2008) and the 42 days' detention vote."

Labour have been clever in putting up the daughter of The Late Mrs. Gwyneth Dunwoody MP as their candidate in the constituency of Crewe-Nantwich (held by by Gwyneth Dunwoody until her death last month), Mr. Pierce said. "They have called the Parliamentary By-Election quickly and the Dunwoody name is big and popular in Crewe-Nantwich."

More on the Times/Populus poll at:

55% of Labour voters want Gordon Brown to resign - Times Online

BonnieDundee · 07-05-2008, 07:54 AM

Labour was better off before it was Nulabour. They need to get rid of all the Nulabour filth.

Britannist · 07-05-2008, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Labour was better off before it was Nulabour. They need to get rid of all the Nulabour *****.

'New' Labour will argue that their electoral record is better (than that of 'old' Labour). 'New' Labour will point to their three consecutive General Election wins under Blair with huge majorities and they will remind everyone that this is something which never happened in the history of the Labour Party before when 'old' Labour ran the 'show'.

Britannist · 07-05-2008, 09:53 AM

More on this at:

55% of Labour voters want Gordon Brown to resign

John in Scotland · 07-05-2008, 10:14 AM

Poor Gordon.

The fact of the matter is, he is merely a scapegoat. Had Tony Blair stayed on, Labour might have done a little better in last week's elections, but not much.

One rather suspects that Tony just gone out in time, and passed the poisoned chalice to Gordon, knowing that the chickens were just about to come home to roost.

(How's that for mixed metaphors?

g hall · 07-05-2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John in Scotland

Poor Gordon.

The fact of the matter is, he is merely a scapegoat.

No he was The Chancellor who pi55ed away a lot of OUR taxes

BonnieDundee · 08-05-2008, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britannist

'New' Labour will argue that their electoral record is better (than that of 'old' Labour). 'New' Labour will point to their three consecutive General Election wins under Blair with huge majorities and they will remind everyone that this is something which never happened in the history of the Labour Party before when 'old' Labour ran the 'show'.

Old labour at least was labour, it did its best to represent the working classes. Nulab are just the Tories-lite.

They weren't my cup of tea exactly but they were better than Nulab or the bloody Tories.

John in Scotland · 08-05-2008, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g hall

No he was The Chancellor ...

Fair point. He is no innocent. He was part of the government, he bears much of the blame. But so were a lot of other people.

John in Scotland · 09-05-2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John in Scotland

Poor Gordon.

The fact of the matter is, he is merely a scapegoat. Had Tony Blair stayed on, Labour might have done a little better in last week's elections, but not much.

One rather suspects that Tony just gone out in time, and passed the poisoned chalice to Gordon, knowing that the chickens were just about to come home to roost.

(How's that for mixed metaphors?

And for a further indication that the electoral problem is the party, not the leader, from the Telegraph:

"The YouGov poll, however, indicates that Labour's position would not improve with another leader in charge.

Potential successors such as Ed Balls, David Miliband, Jack Straw, Harriet Harman, Andy Burnham, Alan Johnson and James Purnell would all make things worse, the poll suggests. "

Labour hits lowest ever rating - Telegraph

g hall · 09-05-2008, 11:11 AM

The worse thing about this poll is the amount of people prepared to vote for boy dave's glee club that is just as worrying

07-05-2008, 07:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,325	"Labour better off without Brown say 55% of Labour supporters: new poll" 55% of Labour voters want Gordon Brown out as Prime Minister and Labour Party leader, a new opinion poll by Populus for today's Times reveals. Labour is better off without him is the view of the majority of Labour supporters questioned. Andrew Pierce, political editor of the Daily Telegraph, told Nick Ferrari's programme on LBC FM (independent news radio in London) at 8.39 am today "His (Brown's) personal opinion poll rating is as low as Blair's was in 2003 after the Iraq 'war' - it is now even lower than Liberal 'Democrat' leader Clegg's whose party also did not do well in last week's local and London elections." Mr. Pierce added "There are two big icebergs on the horizon for Gordon Brown - the Crewe-Nantwich By-Election (22.5.2008) and the 42 days' detention vote." Labour have been clever in putting up the daughter of The Late Mrs. Gwyneth Dunwoody MP as their candidate in the constituency of Crewe-Nantwich (held by by Gwyneth Dunwoody until her death last month), Mr. Pierce said. "They have called the Parliamentary By-Election quickly and the Dunwoody name is big and popular in Crewe-Nantwich." More on the Times/Populus poll at: 55% of Labour voters want Gordon Brown to resign - Times Online

07-05-2008, 07:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
BonnieDundee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 841	Labour was better off before it was Nulabour. They need to get rid of all the Nulabour filth. __________________ "In my opinion, the least bad tax is the property tax on the unimproved value of land, the Henry George argument..." Milton Friedman People do not argue with the teachings of Henry George they simply do not know it.... He who becomes acquainted with it cannot but agree. Count Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910) Leopold Kohr.

07-05-2008, 09:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,325	More More on this at: 55% of Labour voters want Gordon Brown to resign

09-05-2008, 11:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The flatlands of East Anglia but my heart is in the green rolling hills of Devon Posts: 4,427	The worse thing about this poll is the amount of people prepared to vote for boy dave's glee club that is just as worrying __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful." I don't ignore posters just any post made which meets my ID-TEN-T criteria

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

07-05-2008, 10:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
John in Scotland Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Highlands Posts: 74	Poor Gordon. The fact of the matter is, he is merely a scapegoat. Had Tony Blair stayed on, Labour might have done a little better in last week's elections, but not much. One rather suspects that Tony just gone out in time, and passed the poisoned chalice to Gordon, knowing that the chickens were just about to come home to roost. (How's that for mixed metaphors?