Originally Posted by For_England

Policy-wise: none
New, competent leadership that doesn't suppress talent, and that actually believes in accountability, fairness, and democracy. In short, a new face, not the same old gang of thugs who everyone can see through except the party loyal. Unifiers, not people who have created problems and divisions from day one. Not people who on national TV say they enjoy making people suffer. Not people who reveal Tree of Life tattoos to the country. Not deranged nutters like Barnes. Not people who believe that it's up to the leadership to decide whether a leadership challenge should go forward, and not the members. The public already believe the worse - we ought to be presenting an alternative image, not giving them every reason to believe the negativity. If nationalism is ever to move forward, then the day has come for fresh leadership who can take it to the next level, without the baggage of the past. Can it be done without causing any erosion in the core principles? All I know is the longer we wait, the harder it will be. However, my view right now is that it will take a few more years of failure, when even Griffin's spin will fail to persuade people that electoral stagnation is a 'success'. And I expect the party will be in danger of going moderate. Fifty percent of the public agree with our policies, yet we can't tap in to more than about a quarter of that vote. I would think it obvious that a total and complete image (not policy) makeover, including a wipe out of anyone likely to associate the party with neo-Nazism, is needed. We can't afford anything less at this moment in time, and we can't afford leaders who continually are causing splits and divisions within nationalism. Surely even you cannot pretend these divisions we are discussing are totally the fault of the anti-Griffins? He had a unified party till the December purges, but he has really shown his true and ugly nature in the way he is using blogs and threats to try to shut down a leadership challenge. The BNP is going nowhere under Griffin. I would suggest the reason no one is apparent as a successor is because he either has purged or suppressed anyone who might be a threat.

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Why dont you think the BNP isnt going forward?
The party is growing with better results all the time.
Of course if the BNP was to fail to win Euro seats that would be a different matter.

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

You have become totally obsessed with the internal workings of the BNP.
I would think less than 1% of the population knows who Nick Griffin is let alone the rest of them.
Time you stepped back into the real world.
What matters is establishing well known movement with popular policies and a strong leader.

Originally Posted by gina

This is from another site and is of interest to posters

Challenge for Leadership

Originally Posted by Populist Lee

What Leadership Challenge would this be, lady?

It's off, isn't it?

Originally Posted by For_England

I'm still trying to get the percentage of votes in the recent elections across the country. It seems to have been stuck at less than fifteen percent for a few years now. If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I'm wrong), I think I heard that in the previous council elections, the BNP got 13.8 percent on average. What was it this time? Though there were growth areas, other areas experienced significant decline in the BNP vote. Again, we both have the same information in front of us, and it would be nice if us nationalists could stop attacking each other all the time over these things (I speak to myself as much as to anyone), but I and alot of other people are not convinced we are moving forward. I measured my true reaction to the recent elections by my sense of disappointment at the results.

Originally Posted by For_England

You can continue to think that it's all just in people's imagination. I think that image should be our number one priority, and defending leaders who get their inspiration on how to deal with leadership challenges from Robert Mugabe ought to tell you something. Ignoring the situation or pretending it doesn't exist is not going to make the constant divisions and purgings go away. But image is holding back the party, and the negative image is focused on Griffin and his goons. Again, we have the same information in front of us, and it's just a matter of time before the electoral stall we have been in for two years becomes apparent to all.