For_England

perhaps this is becoming the unofficial meeting place for people who either get purged, or (like myself) resign from the new 'independent' forum.

Vortex

Do I take it there are now two forums run by the rebels? One was run by someone who used the username "Cromwell" I believe. Now Cromwell was a well known purger himself. he turned on his most able lieutenant Sir Thomas Fairfax. But then Cromwell was right on that occasion!

For_England

There have been two forums for probably six weeks or so, though 'Cromwell' fell out with Steve Blake (not hard to do, to be fair) and doesn't have any connection to them. Unfortunately people were hassled or threatened with banning for such offences as taking a (perceived) moderate position with regards to Griffin, being VoC, or visiting without logging in. I accepted senior moderator status there because I was under the impression it would be an independent forum that would rise above the petty squabbles that afflict nationalism. Unfortunately it was, in my opinion, ran in a very petty manner itself, where people were being hassled and threatened to put up links on their blogs, or being told they will be banned but in the future since 'revenge is best served cold', or having IPs blocked because they were not logging in but just visiting the public area, or being banned totally just for being VoC, or having their pms deleted. What's the point complaining about Griffin when the anti-Griffins do this kind of thing? I could still be the senior mod there but who wants to be? It's a shame because we could really do with an impartial nationalist forum that allows debate and discussion and which rises above the pettiness and censorship of Green Arrow, Ebanks, BNP members forum, and other forums. I could say more but really we all need to try to keep our negative opinions of people and their personalities to ourselves more, but suffice to say I won't be working with 'Cromwell' ever again.

For_England

Griffin hands enemies more ammo -

The Tory Troll: Nick Griffin looks to crush leadership challenge

British Bairn

No i'm neither but I do consider Kenny and Nicholla Smith to be very good friends of mine. Thankfully I'm still in a position to vote against Griffin.

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Populist Lee

This is one of those rumours that has got quite a few people going.

So far, I have not been able to track down one reputable Source to give it substance.

I should add, this would fly directly in the face of what Barnbrook told me two years ago.

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Wowbanger TIP

You show all the classic characteristics of the armchair BNP member repeating the official line unquestioningly.

Take you position on the damage cause by Collett and Hannam and their prototype, Lecomber. Obviously the vast majority of the electorate don't know who these idiots are, nor do the know who Griffin is, or more than four people in the cabinet for that matter.

However if you had ever been involved in a BNP campaign you would know that the opposition go to extraordinary lengths to inform the local electorate of some of the things these repulsive morons have said and the conclusions which can be drawn from them. The result of this is not that a great many people are expert on the fourth rate front bench of the BNP but that the Party is general considered to consist of entirely of fascists, racists and imbeciles by the entire politically literate class and the electorate of the BNP's target wards.

If this was not bad enough, any moderate sane person desperate enough to fall for Griffin's protestations of contrition and rehabilitation for himself a his party tend to get upset when they discover the truth in the form of people like the reptilian Collett. The result of this is usually a large number of disillusioned, embarrassed and extremely annoyed people walking around the BNP's most fertile areas cursing Griffin and Co as loudly as they can.

As for people like Spence, we will never know what transpired between him and Collett but the line he was a unstable megalomaniac from the leadership has been wheeled out just too many times for it have have any credibility other than with slavish Griffinite toadies with no critical faculties what so ever. Spence was a prominent leader of a protest which was with a couple of days of bring down the British government, a capable man with a proven track record of leadership and organisation. Collett cant even command the respect of his fellow fascists. Spence is quoted as saying the the BNP wasn't what he thought it was, I have a pretty good idea of what he meant.

And if Spence didn't have any chance of winning a by-election what chance have the BNP of ever winning one with candidates like Simon Darby? oh sorry I forgot he's clutching a ticket for the Brussels gravy train and is therefore unavailable to fight I dunno say Crewe this Thursday.

What a shame the Party could not pay for a few new tires for Spence's car, still having laid out 80,000 pounds on entertainment that year according to their accounts maybe there wasn't anything left for frivolities.

I sincerely hope that Bowden has rejoined the Party, because that would mean that none of Griffin's clique of fascist scum can sleep safe in their beds.

I'd give up trying to defend Griffin if I was you Blueblood, and slope off to a place to which your standard of debate is more suited before you cause him any more embarrassment.

For_England

... seems like it wasn't true after all oh well, another couple of years and the party will realise it needs to dump Griffin.

blueblood1920

Excuse me I am no armchair activist, I am a candidate and an activist as well as other things for my local branch on Merseyside. I know what happens in these campaigns and I know how much effect they have, first time some people see them they are put off but the second time they ignore it as they have seen it all before. Also we have people phoning us telling us they are going to vote for us because of the **** the left have been putting out. The left's campaigns are failing and they are getting desperate, thats why they are now resorting to threatening to attack children.

You accused me of being an Armchair activist, but what do you do?

Independent Working Class

Someone seems to think I am Sharon Ebanks just because I mentioned Mr. Bowden, I am based in Birmingham and I do not follow the Griffinite trend of calling her a n***** since she fell out with Nick Griffin.

Well sorry to dissapoint the keyboard C.I.D. wannabe - I am NOT Sharron Ebanks. Don't give up you day job (assuming there is an employer who activley recruits retarded people).