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Old 15-05-2008, 11:04 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Did Joseph Goebbels have any kids?
Six natural and one stepson.

The stepson survived the War.
Does beg the question where he ended up?
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Old 15-05-2008, 02:10 PM   #122 (permalink)
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If this is what many members truely believe, and I have met one or two, then it has to be done properly, not behind closed doors or dark alleyways. We have less than a year until the Euro elections, and perhaps even a General Election if Gordon throws a dicky fit at the probability of being ousted as PM. The BNP Conference will be in November (I think) - plenty of time to get the ball rolling if you feel that is what is needed. Posting it on obscure websites or through Searchlight and their minions does Colin Auty no favours.

Part of the problem lies in not knowing what any potential new chairman would be capable of. Colin Auty is an 'unknown'. He, and the others, have never been tried or tested under fire. Would they be capable of handling the sustained abuse and hatred spewing forth from the likes of UAF scum, Cruddas or BoJo? Would they be able to hold their own with television presenters? The membership know Nick Griffin can do these and more, but can Auty? Or anyone else who wishes to take his place?

NG was a bit of an unknown face to a high proportion of BNP members in 1999. I'm not sure exactly when NG joined the BNP, but I have a sneaky feeling he was a member for less than 5 years before taking over as leader. Deputy leader Sharron Edwards had only been a member for about a year.
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So do you think that COlin Auty will be a good leader as someone who advocates being more PC and cuddling up to Islam?
Do you have any evidence of him being more pc and cuddling up to Islam?

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Of course you don't fear him - you know he hasn't a chance.
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Do you have any evidence of him being more pc and cuddling up to Islam?


Of course you don't fear him - you know he hasn't a chance.
I posted a link to a story where Auty was critical of Nick Griffin because he called ISLAM wicked. Look back and you will see it.
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I posted a link to a story where Auty was critical of Nick Griffin because he called ISLAM wicked. Look back and you will see it.
It is wicked. A choice between Auty and Griffin still isn't a choice - the public will not vote for Griffin.
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I posted a link to a story where Auty was critical of Nick Griffin because he called ISLAM wicked. Look back and you will see it.
The crux of matter isn't Islam but whether one is NG's loyal bootlicker or not. It's probably safe to say that anybody who does not state that Islam is the most evil invention in the world is a sure way to get on the wrong side of NG. It doesn't take many brain cells to realise that being critical of NG's stance on Islam is far from being an apologist of Islam.

How exactly is cuddling up to Islam defined?
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It is wicked. A choice between Auty and Griffin still isn't a choice - the public will not vote for Griffin.
99% of the public dont even know who Griffin is.
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It is wicked. A choice between Auty and Griffin still isn't a choice - the public will not vote for Griffin.
Griffin may not be perfect but hes the best man for the job and to be very honest with you on the streets I dont get people saying I wont vote for you because I dont like your leader. People seem to be making their judgement on our policies rather than our leader, maybe when the party is bigger and has better access to the media then people will start to judge our leader on the same par as they do with the main 3.

Untill you can find me someone who is better than Nick Griffin maybe it would be best if you either get behind the party and push it forward or just leave it and have nothing to do with it untill you are happy with who ever is leader.
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Yes, it's time for a change. The public needs to see down-to-earth people they can relate to, like Colin Auty. The party doesn't need a fuhrer to get it into power - it needs a strong management structure that allows regions to thrive rather than beating them down out of fear for their own position. A credible, though mediocre, leader, could do far more than Griffin now, in my opinion. He has not only served his purpose, but he has become a liability, as he himself admitted. If you don't believe me, think how many people would consider the BNP if not for Griffin - the number cannot be underestimated. We have a major PR problem, and fresh leadership with no neo-Nazi baggage and past (oops, that excludes VoC) is desperately needed, though without weakening or watering down current policies.
Griffin is far sharper than all the rest of them and his image is not a problem the public vote for the BNP not him.
What do you mean by a strong management structure?
If you mean a committee thats the road to ruin as we saw with the National Front in the 1970's.
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The crux of matter isn't Islam but whether one is NG's loyal bootlicker or not. It's probably safe to say that anybody who does not state that Islam is the most evil invention in the world is a sure way to get on the wrong side of NG. It doesn't take many brain cells to realise that being critical of NG's stance on Islam is far from being an apologist of Islam.

How exactly is cuddling up to Islam defined?
Any decent Nationalist would be fully opposed to the backward religion that is Islam being in Britain. No Nationalist could possibly agree to a religion being in Britain that wants to impose it beliefs, culture and laws on Britain. That would be equal to assisting an invading force.
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