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Old 29-04-2008, 12:02 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I just wanted for people to work together. I was thinking of a coalition so if we get enough votes between us we can take control a Council
That's the general idea with coalitions and alliances - to get some people elected and so push forward those policies the allies have in common!

Now it has more policies, UKIP is no longer just a single issue party, but the downside is that its policies position it pretty firmly in what was formerly right wing Tory territory. Therefore some people (me for instance) won't support it because while we agree with UKIP's approach to the EU we find some of the other stuff too right wing. However, we can support the Liberals or the Greens. Therefore an alliance of those three parties could unite eurosceptics from across the political spectrum from the centre left all the way over to the right including Thatcherites, Libertarians and traditionalist Tories. As well as euroscepticism, the parties all agree on opposing ID cards and other security-state legislation. On other issues they differ, and the voter can take his/her choice.

To see several parties squabbling over those voters who are more rightwing than the Tories isn't going to worry Labour or the LibDems at all and isn't really a huge problem for Cameron. But the sort of alliance that Steve is talking about could seriously scare all the mainstream parties.
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p.s. I wonder if the Libertarian Party would be interested?
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Old 29-04-2008, 04:43 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The Greens won't work with UKIP so just forget the fantasy politics.
Actually you are confusing UKIP with the BNP. The Greens won't work with the BNP, but then again neither will UKIP or the Liberals or anyone else, so that isn't a problem.
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p.s. I wonder if the Libertarian Party would be interested?
I would work with anyone to get us out of the EU. However, I don't think it will ever happen. We have been talking about this for years, but little parties can barely work with themselves, nevermind other parties.
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I would work with anyone to get us out of the EU. However, I don't think it will ever happen. We have been talking about this for years, but little parties can barely work with themselves, nevermind other parties.
I know what you mean. The trick is to get all the anti-EU people pulling together. But I actually think it might be easier to do that through a flexible alliance of several different parties than through trying to keep everyone happy within a single party. (We've already seen how difficult that is!)
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Actually you are confusing UKIP with the BNP. The Greens won't work with the BNP, but then again neither will UKIP or the Liberals or anyone else, so that isn't a problem.
Nope. I suffer not from confusion.

Why don't you ask the Greens what they think about UKIP?
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Some of them are. I liked Matt's gag the other day about watching out for 'watermelons'!
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I know what you mean. The trick is to get all the anti-EU people pulling together. But I actually think it might be easier to do that through a flexible alliance of several different parties than through trying to keep everyone happy within a single party. (We've already seen how difficult that is!)
And again I ask . . .
Where are the Greens anti-EU?
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