List your parties in order of preference.

The Bear · 23-04-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the BNP

1) Kicked out proven scum like Collett, Griffin etc.
2) Removed colour of skin as a barrier to membership.
3) Ditched all their socialist policies.

Then I would promote them to 3rd.

However, I see no squadron of flying pigs on the radar.

They would certainly disappear from my "detested" list as well.

Euroscep · 23-04-2008, 12:32 PM

Personally I am only interested in one political party and that is the BNP.......

Just how can you have three preferences..........

I cannot wait see how UKIP and those false Nationalists the ED's fair against the BNP in the forthcoming elections.

Vote BNP!

arden forester · 23-04-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the BNP

1) Kicked out proven scum like Collett, Griffin etc.
2) Removed colour of skin as a barrier to membership.
3) Ditched all their socialist policies.

Then I would promote them to 3rd.

However, I see no squadron of flying pigs on the radar.

Assuming the pigs take off, it would make it a populist party of some attraction.

By the way, Drivers Party? Is this the Motorists Equity & Unity Party?

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kernow · 23-04-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

My big gripe with the UKIP is that I strongly believe that by continuing with the policy of Britain pulling out of the EU they are proposing a thing that would NOW result in a disaster for the country.

You're not by any chance a William Hague fan? I'm amazed that it hasn't dawned on a thinking person like yourself that the political elite of Europe are only interested in a United states of Europe governed by an unelected self appointing committee, a bit like the old Hereditary Peers! So why do you say, " My big gripe with UKIP"? Ukip stands for the United Kingdom Independence Party! We're not interested in being part of the fraudulent EU. It was because of the EU that UKIP came in to being and the reason why I and countless others joined! I'd sooner live on boiled cabbage for the rest of my life than my Country lose It's independence to a Franco-German political elite!

British-Conservatism · 23-04-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the BNP

1) Kicked out proven scum like Collett, Griffin etc.
2) Removed colour of skin as a barrier to membership.
3) Ditched all their socialist policies.

Then I would promote them to 3rd.

However, I see no squadron of flying pigs on the radar.

Collett maybe.
Griffin seems quite good.
As for the Socialist policies as you call them I would say they are very popular with the public, would be a mistake to drop them.

British-Conservatism · 23-04-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

Mine in order NOT of approval but of DETESTATION.

Muslim Council. (‘nuff said)
Respect. (By FAR the worst political party)
BNP (Close, but still better than “Respect”)
New Labour (They’ve ruined Britain)

Then a very long way until we get to the respectable parties and it would be churlish of me to rank them.

My big gripe with the UKIP is that I strongly believe that by continuing with the policy of Britain pulling out of the EU they are proposing a thing that would NOW result in a disaster for the country.

There is a whole lot more to be gained by adopting a “let’s go for Britain in the EU arena” approach as I see things today as I absolutely believe the window of opportunity to pull out of the EU and succeed on a stand alone basis is now closed.

So which party do you like the best or hate the least then?

British-Conservatism · 23-04-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Let me list some:

1) National service - very anti-freedom, statist and anti-liberty.
2) Removing the vote of conscientious objectors - anti-liberty and basically amounts to punishing those who disagree with you so that they cannot vote agianst you.
3) Capital punishment - According to a libertarian, the state is not infallible, sorry...
4) They support a 'free' (or so they call it, Ha!), National Health Service - A socialistic leftist policy.
5) Control of agriculture and agricultural subsidies - little do they realise that many of these subsidies caused the problems in the first place, not to mention that it is anti-economic freedom.
6) Opposition to rail privatisation - This one's a no brainer.
7) Public schooling - not only do they support it, but they specifically mention that they are angered by the indoctrination of 'our children'. The ironic thing is, they then go on to argue in favour of indoctrination - just their kind this time!
8) Increase taxes on companies that outsource.
9) Centralising education.
10) Require supermarkets to stock British grown food - no doubt at great cost to everyone in Britain. Bastiat would be absolutely appalled.

11) Introduction of daily Christian assemblies into public schools - no thanks!
12) They wish to abolish university fees - how on earth are they going to pay for this whilst promising to lower taxes? It would seem that when a party has no chance of getting into power they can offer anything they want.
13) They support the continued use of council houses.
14) Invest in maglev trains - why on earth? This is just insanity.

I could go on.

Some of their policies are exceptionally vague as well.

Ok some goo points there.
Let me give my opinion on each.

1) National service - very anti-freedom, statist and anti-liberty.

Some thing that has many positives in my opinion.
Increase patriotism.
Instill discipline in our youth.
Create a sense of belonging.
Make our nation war ready.

2) Removing the vote of conscientious objectors - anti-liberty and basically amounts to punishing those who disagree with you so that they cannot vote agianst you.

Interesting one it stops the shirkers of duty having a say.

3) Capital punishment - According to a libertarian, the state is not infallible, sorry...

Somthing thats needed for lifers that commit crimes inside and very popular too.
4) They support a 'free' (or so they call it, Ha!), National Health Service - A socialistic leftist policy.

The NHS increases freedom as it provides healthcare for many who otherwise would not be able to afford it.

5) Control of agriculture and agricultural subsidies - little do they realise that many of these subsidies caused the problems in the first place, not to mention that it is anti-economic freedom.

Essential to make us self-sufficient in food and secure as a nation.

6) Opposition to rail privatisation - This one's a no brainer.

Rail Privatisation has been a disaster.
Our railways are a disgrace compared to many other nations with State owned railways.

7) Public schooling - not only do they support it, but they specifically mention that they are angered by the indoctrination of 'our children'. The ironic thing is, they then go on to argue in favour of indoctrination - just their kind this time!

Im shocked that your against state schools.
We need to be realistic here.

8) Increase taxes on companies that outsource.

Great idea.
Want to see goods here then make them here.

9) Centralising education.

Well needed to create a united patriotic state.

10) Require supermarkets to stock British grown food - no doubt at great cost to everyone in Britain. Bastiat would be absolutely appalled.

Another very good popular policy that I covered in at 5

11) Introduction of daily Christian assemblies into public schools - no thanks!

Maybe upset British atheists which may be a problem.

12) They wish to abolish university fees - how on earth are they going to pay for this whilst promising to lower taxes? It would seem that when a party has no chance of getting into power they can offer anything they want.

saving 8 billion on foreign aid and 2 and half billion on asylum seeker costs would more than cover it

13) They support the continued use of council houses.

As do I until people can afford to buy.

14) Invest in maglev trains - why on earth? This is just insanity.

We need the best railways on earth to show the world British greatness amomg other things.

British-Conservatism · 23-04-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Let me list some:

1) National service - very anti-freedom, statist and anti-liberty.
2) Removing the vote of conscientious objectors - anti-liberty and basically amounts to punishing those who disagree with you so that they cannot vote agianst you.
3) Capital punishment - According to a libertarian, the state is not infallible, sorry...
4) They support a 'free' (or so they call it, Ha!), National Health Service - A socialistic leftist policy.
5) Control of agriculture and agricultural subsidies - little do they realise that many of these subsidies caused the problems in the first place, not to mention that it is anti-economic freedom.
6) Opposition to rail privatisation - This one's a no brainer.
7) Public schooling - not only do they support it, but they specifically mention that they are angered by the indoctrination of 'our children'. The ironic thing is, they then go on to argue in favour of indoctrination - just their kind this time!
8) Increase taxes on companies that outsource.
9) Centralising education.
10) Require supermarkets to stock British grown food - no doubt at great cost to everyone in Britain. Bastiat would be absolutely appalled.

11) Introduction of daily Christian assemblies into public schools - no thanks!
12) They wish to abolish university fees - how on earth are they going to pay for this whilst promising to lower taxes? It would seem that when a party has no chance of getting into power they can offer anything they want.
13) They support the continued use of council houses.
14) Invest in maglev trains - why on earth? This is just insanity.

I could go on.

Some of their policies are exceptionally vague as well.

I can see it would take a lot to get you to like the BNP.
The Libertarian party is very much for you.
The BNP is a Traditional Conservative part.
Two very different ideologies.
UKIP is trying to mix the two making neither group happy.

Mikeuk · 23-04-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by John Connor

The only party I'm interested in is the one with the copious amounts of drunk supermodels.

Which one is that?

mkpdavies · 23-04-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Which one is that?

It's called the Matt Davies Appreciation Party. Sorry, but membership is fairly limited and strict.

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23-04-2008, 12:32 PM	#22 (permalink)
Euroscep Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 36	Personally I am only interested in one political party and that is the BNP....... Just how can you have three preferences.......... I cannot wait see how UKIP and those false Nationalists the ED's fair against the BNP in the forthcoming elections. Vote BNP!