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British-Conservatism · 24-04-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

A vote for the BNP is a wasted vote as it is a vote that would probably have gone to the party most likely to unseat a New Labour candidate.

Worse yet it may split the vote that would have otherwise have seen the New Labour candidate not get elected.

The rise of the BNP is far more down to naive and unsophisticated people looking for simple solutions to complex problems, and not realising what added baggage comes with the solution that they think they can see.

In my opinion the time to get worried is now, as when following the inevitable very severe downturn in the British economy, if not an actual crash of the British economy, the white majority of the population believe that the non white population are to blame for the ills and are in some way surviving better than the majority whites are.

It is then that the very real danger exists that a latter day Hitler figure will emerge and an ultra nationalist party will for support from the people who have become acclimatised to the “nanny state” extension of the Welfare State, and they will get that support, and then all hell will break out in Britain as the ultra nationalist party run their real agenda.

The number of parallels between where we are heading as things presently stand and the Weimer Republic are frightening.

A vote for anyone else but UKIP or the BNP is a wasted vote as all the other parties are the same.
People who are against immigration should just vote BNP to get it stopped it is quite simple.

British-Conservatism · 24-04-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

The number of National and European representives within UKIP are in an era of obvious expansion.

The bnp are much more inferior to UKIP and others,most bnp supporters are aware of this,but refuse to accept it,the bnp need to get real and get rid of their Leader and his buddy,only then can they expect a little more respect from people.

I think things will change alot by the next Euro election.

The Bear · 24-04-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

A vote for anyone else but UKIP or the BNP is a wasted vote as all the other parties are the same.
People who are against immigration should just vote BNP to get it stopped it is quite simple.

There is (thank goodness) not a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a BNP MP. On that basis it's better to try to use your vote to scupper the lot that you don't want.

blueblood1920 · 24-04-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

There is (thank goodness) not a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a BNP MP. On that basis it's better to try to use your vote to scupper the lot that you don't want.

BNP stand a better chance than UKIP.

British-Conservatism · 24-04-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

There is (thank goodness) not a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a BNP MP. On that basis it's better to try to use your vote to scupper the lot that you don't want.

The chance grows all the time.

mkpdavies · 25-04-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

BNP stand a better chance than UKIP.

Did you miss the news that UKIP now has an MP to go with the Lords and MEPs?

Or are you in denial?

blueblood1920 · 25-04-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Did you miss the news that UKIP now has an MP to go with the Lords and MEPs?

Or are you in denial?

A already sitting MP does not give UKIP a better chance of getting someone elected in my opinion.

mkpdavies · 25-04-2008, 01:54 PM

Oh I think it does. It's going to give UKIP more media and more credibility still.

The fact is though, UKIP in it's short existance already has an MP, to go with its Lords and MEPs. Face facts, the BNP still don't look like getting an MP for many years yet, if ever. Lords the same.

MEPs, might get a few if your vote doesn't collapse like it did last time.

UKIP have played a different game, which as reaped dividends. If they had done a few other things, they would be even better off than now.

blueblood1920 · 25-04-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Oh I think it does. It's going to give UKIP more media and more credibility still.

The fact is though, UKIP in it's short existance already has an MP, to go with its Lords and MEPs. Face facts, the BNP still don't look like getting an MP for many years yet, if ever. Lords the same.

MEPs, might get a few if your vote doesn't collapse like it did last time.

UKIP have played a different game, which as reaped dividends. If they had done a few other things, they would be even better off than now.

It may give UKIP that, but that is not enough to win an election in my opinion. Also UKIP support seems to be falling around the country and I dont see why this area would of been any different until now. UKIP I can see getting a respectable vote here, but winning no chance.

BNP stand a chance in a few areas if we go on support at local council, stoke which has a strong BNP group and looks set to pick up more councillors especially on the complete mess Stoke Labour have made of things. Epping Forest where the BNP managed to hold a seat in a by-election for the first time in years which shows that the support there is not protest but solid and could be carried through to the General.
Then we have Barking and Dagenham, of which due to boundary changes the Constituency of Barking now has more of the BNP's strongest local council wards.
Results from 2005 might not look that great, but a lot has changed for the BNP since then and that I am sure you wont deny. UKIP hasnt managed to build any real visible local support and actually seems to be on the decline so I see them struggling to hold onto the votes they got in 2005 nevermind winning a seat.

mkpdavies · 25-04-2008, 02:23 PM

At this stage of the election cycle, UKIP aren't doing too bad. Some areas are up some areas are down. Come the EU elections, it's UKIP time again and you will probably see UKIP surge once again. They have made the EU issue their own.

Woking has for example (without my help this time) fielded a full slate of 14 candidates for these locals. Labour isn't even running in my ward for the first time in a long time.

I know this must pain you, but UKIP is now building some serious credibility. MPs, Lords and MEPs. The full set! To top that off, the party is even starting to take the locals seriously too.

If UKIP continue to correct its weaknesses, such as improving the website, continuing with the policy work and getting the admin right, then the fact the party has also managed to start improving its image will give it a real chance at future elections.

Your man Griffin is banking on the world collapsing before his merry band will have a chance. Well that may well work, but if the worlds systems have collapsed, then all bets are off anyway.

25-04-2008, 01:54 PM	#58 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,083 Party: Libertarian Party	Oh I think it does. It's going to give UKIP more media and more credibility still. The fact is though, UKIP in it's short existance already has an MP, to go with its Lords and MEPs. Face facts, the BNP still don't look like getting an MP for many years yet, if ever. Lords the same. MEPs, might get a few if your vote doesn't collapse like it did last time. UKIP have played a different game, which as reaped dividends. If they had done a few other things, they would be even better off than now. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

25-04-2008, 02:23 PM	#60 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,083 Party: Libertarian Party	At this stage of the election cycle, UKIP aren't doing too bad. Some areas are up some areas are down. Come the EU elections, it's UKIP time again and you will probably see UKIP surge once again. They have made the EU issue their own. Woking has for example (without my help this time) fielded a full slate of 14 candidates for these locals. Labour isn't even running in my ward for the first time in a long time. I know this must pain you, but UKIP is now building some serious credibility. MPs, Lords and MEPs. The full set! To top that off, the party is even starting to take the locals seriously too. If UKIP continue to correct its weaknesses, such as improving the website, continuing with the policy work and getting the admin right, then the fact the party has also managed to start improving its image will give it a real chance at future elections. Your man Griffin is banking on the world collapsing before his merry band will have a chance. Well that may well work, but if the worlds systems have collapsed, then all bets are off anyway. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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