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Old 22-04-2008, 12:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I thought it was average to poor. Griffin was the most polished, the rest were clearly ham actors.

Barnbrook came across as a total freak.

Still, I am going to let you all into a little secret. I would probably vote BNP over Lib Lab Con now. I simply see the old lot as a bigger threat.

However, before I got to BNP I would have to wade through Libertarian, UKIP, EDP, FEP, Monster Raving Loony, Liberal, Independent, Left List, Christian, Communist, Natural Law, Scrap the Congestion and many other parties first.
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Old 22-04-2008, 12:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'll vote strategically to get New Labour out.

That’s the trouble with out electoral system, you can vote for a party whose declared strategies you find attractive but with no chance of the party gaining a seat and so loose the tiny bit of influence your vote actually gives.

In the past the situation was not quite so bad as if it was that you voted for Labour, Conservative, or even Liberal then at least there would be a chance that thee views of that party would be considered during the committee stages of bills, but Blair broke all that and it won’t come back.

In the absence of meaningful PR being introduced the only real alternative is to adopt a strategic voting policy to get rid of the party you don’t want if such is the case.

It’s more than a bit of a shame, the way things are now it’s downright non democratic.
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Non Democratic? You mean like the Communist styled European Union is "non Democratic",Bear?
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The broadcast has caused a massive influx of enquries both to the national lines and local lines.
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The BNP is an iceberg.

The ice below the surface is heavily contaminated with raw sewage.
Is this an example of your 'managerial' language? Very lilkely to persuade and lead by example - NOT!

I wouldn't support the BNP, but that doesn't mean that everybody who supports it is 'sewage'. Many of their supporters are ordinary decent people who have had enough and many of them can be won over to support UKIP. Are we supposed to tell them to go away?

The traitors in politics are those who got us into the EU and those who are keeping us there. I don't think we can blame the BNP for that.
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I wouldn't support the BNP, but that doesn't mean that everybody who supports it is 'sewage'. Many of their supporters are ordinary decent people who have had enough and many of them can be won over to support UKIP. Are we supposed to tell them to go away?
This is beginning to get tedious.

Where did I write that everyone who supports the BNP is sewage?

I didn’t.

There is absolutely do doubt that many, possibly the majority, of the rank and file who do support the BNP are simply naïve and have been taken in by the adoption of a popular cause for concern by the BNP as a front for what is at the heart of the organisation.

A cause for concern that the legitimate political parties will not or dare not enter into debate about.

If by exposing this strategy that the BNP is now following those who have not seen through to what lies beneath are alerted to it, can that be wrong?
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a front for what is at the heart of the organisation.

A cause for concern that the legitimate political parties will not or dare not enter into debate about.
So what do you say lies at the heart of the organisation and why do you suppose the legitimate (!!!! ) parties are afraid to discuss it?

Not yet another conspiracy theory I hope.
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So what do you say lies at the heart of the organisation and why do you suppose the legitimate (!!!! ) parties are afraid to discuss it?

Not yet another conspiracy theory I hope.
What lies at the heart of the BNP can best be determined by examining the past words and deeds of those individuals sitting at the BNP Top Table.

It’s not the thing that the legitimate parties are afraid to discuss, though in discussing what should be discussed it is probable that their political opponents would accuse them of supporting.
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What lies at the heart of the BNP can best be determined by examining the past words and deeds of those individuals sitting at the BNP Top Table.
Well quote a few so that we can examine them.

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It’s not the thing that the legitimate parties are afraid to discuss, though in discussing what should be discussed it is probable that their political opponents would accuse them of supporting.
You've lost me.
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Well quote a few so that we can examine them.
Also include a date of when they were made, dont go dragging up quotes from like 10 years ago because quotes from UKIP leadership can be dragged up from much earlier dates.
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