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Old 18-04-2008, 04:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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[quote=The Bear;488995]There's no point in having a go at the author if what he writes is factual.

It’s akin to those who complain about newspaper articles by starting by moaning about “The Torygraph” or “The Daily Wail” as if by so doing will in some way change what has been written when it are simply facts.

Facts that are correct and presented in a context and manner that doesn’t distort the interpretation that gets drawn when reading them

Did “bulter” mean to write “butler”?

Is Searchlight a disreputable source of information?

In either case does it matter?

That's just the point, Searchlight either lies outright, distorts or cherry picks information. It IS a disreputable organization, run by a former crook and ex-Communist Party activist to boot. It also cooerces people to hound BNP supporters out of their jobs, deny them the lawful right of assembly and have in fact made a nice little earner for themselves out of the whole tawdry business.
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Old 18-04-2008, 04:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If this mans a thug then I think butler best watch out for my Grandmother on a dark night.
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Old 18-04-2008, 04:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So,why don't the bnp confront them and openly chastise them for what you say they are and for what you say they represent?

No biggie,get your balls out for everyone to see them, or button it.

bnp,talk is just talk,do something,or lose whatever miniscule support you few have.

I'm sure others here feel the same as I do with your constant empty gesticulations over the years.
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Old 18-04-2008, 06:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I think you are in a minority there Hartlepool old chap. As for the BNP's support, pray do tell me why the establishment, the leaders of all three old gang parties, and the entire PC brigade are in overdrive on an anti-BNP mission at the moment if the party has no support?
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That's just the point, Searchlight either lies outright, distorts or cherry picks information. It IS a disreputable organization, run by a former crook and ex-Communist Party activist to boot. It also cooerces people to hound BNP supporters out of their jobs, deny them the lawful right of assembly and have in fact made a nice little earner for themselves out of the whole tawdry business.
All of which really doesn’t matter a toss. The issue is Collett, not Searchlight, Outrage, the WI, or the RSPB.

The man in the clip either is or is not Collett.

If he is, then the issue is what he is saying that brings out what a disgusting creature he is, and what a disgusting organisation the loathsome BNP is for having the likes of him as a member let alone in any position of responsibility.

Not who blew his cover.
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If he is, then the issue is what he is saying that brings out what a disgusting creature he is, and what a disgusting organisation the loathsome BNP is for having the likes of him as a member let alone in any position of responsibility.

Not who blew his cover.
Oh stop your overblown sensationalism. There are plenty of people within the BNP who loathe him just as much as you do, and plenty of others who are not thugs like him, but believe he should be given another chance. I happen to agree with the first lot, but don't try to pretend for one second he is characteristic of BNP members as a whole. On second thoughts, keep it up - you just show how unreasonable, and prejudiced in the true sense of the word, you are.

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I think you are in a minority there Hartlepool old chap. As for the BNP's support, pray do tell me why the establishment, the leaders of all three old gang parties, and the entire PC brigade are in overdrive on an anti-BNP mission at the moment if the party has no support?
Exactly and the UKIP's immigration stance is similar. There is certainly a big problem and the government are scared that people might wake up to how they are being socially engineered. That would blow their entire scam.

They are actually doing better than the UKIP and chiefly I think it is because immigration is seen as a bigger problem than the EU. I personally don't underestimate the EU but I can see how it is more sophisticated in keeping its head down whereas walking around London these days is quite frankly disturbing.
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All of which really doesn’t matter a toss. The issue is Collett, not Searchlight, Outrage, the WI, or the RSPB.

The man in the clip either is or is not Collett.

If he is, then the issue is what he is saying that brings out what a disgusting creature he is, and what a disgusting organisation the loathsome BNP is for having the likes of him as a member let alone in any position of responsibility.

Not who blew his cover.
Not too sure why you seem so fixated on Collett!
I don't think anyone on here has disputed the fact that it is Collett in the clip.
I don't think anyone on here has leapt to his defence.
He is a revolting little oik who seems to keep his position because he has some dirt on Nick Gri££in.

Blew what cover? That clip was on TV years ago and on the internet for almost as long.
Bulter has not yet posted anything original, or even recent.
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As far as I can tell, Collett is not the issue, the primary issue is a continuing effort to trash anyone in the BNP, no matter how long ago they "stepped out of line", no matter whether they have "done their time", or whether they have shown regret for former actions, which in some cases, is no more 'severe' than uttering a collection of offensive comments - diddums, poor oozy, woozy, sensitive people.

Jeez! The country is full of political paedophiles, thieves, swindlers and in the case of the present Labour Party, downright mass murderers, yet I hear absolutely nothing to match the venom that is written and distributed attacking the BNP, a party that, as a party, has done nothing illegal except where it challenges the oppressive race laws. It has not organised mass bus loads of thugs to turn up at opposition events and does everything it can to actually be legitimate.

The opposition to the BNP behave in exactly the same way as the Mugabe crowd in Africa; they fiddle election results, intimidate their opponents, organise and cause street violence against their opponents, and generally behave in a vile and disgraceful manner becoming of anyone that proclaims some sense of fair play. Their disrespect and venom is not just found on the streets, but written down and portrayed as some sort of absolute mantra that must be obeyed and acknowledged, and failure to submit is punishable by the most extreme form of verbal execution - Nazi! Aaarrgh!!

I find politics in this country largely nauseating, and generally find it difficult to even find anything in this country worthy, unless it is either dead, or already decayed. in other words the past, rather than the present, is generally of more interest to me than the present.

Heaven help UKIP if it ever gets close to power and dares to challenge the global authority.
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Independent Working Class is right and that is why there is so much dissent in and around the BNP leadership. Griffin is a fool. After his court victories he was a star but now hes lost it all just because he wanted a boyfriend. He is not a fit and proper person to run a political party and has destroyed many succesful branches. If it was not for him uneducated Searchlight trash like bulter(sic) would be laughed at.
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