Lady Thatcher - series of articles just published in the Daily Telegraph

BonnieDundee · 20-04-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

There are anti-EU people in the Labour Party, of course.

I'm certainly not pro-labour either however.

Britannist · 20-04-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

I don't much like the large private schools but I'm not against them per se. I was just pointing out that to claim New labour, whatever its faults, is more dominated by rich elites than the Tories is nonsense.

Labour is largely run by an 'elite' mostly educated in public schools. Many Labour Government Ministers were privately educated. There are a large number of Labour MPs also educated in public schools and who also now send their offspring to them.

You seem to give the impression of possibly having a 'class-based' view of the UK political parties and British politics.

Has it ever occurred to you that many people think that 'class-based politics' is out-of-date?

By the way, you refer (quote above) to "rich elites". I do not know who used that terminology but it wasn't me - I only referred to 'elites'.

BonnieDundee · 20-04-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Labour is largely run by an 'elite' mostly educated in public schools. Many Labour Government Ministers were privately educated. There are a large number of Labour MPs also educated in public schools and who also now send their offspring to them.

You seem to give the impression of possibly having a 'class-based' view of the UK political parties and British politics.

Has it ever occurred to you that many people think that 'class-based politics' is out-of-date?

By the way, you refer (quote above) to "rich elites". I do not know who used that terminology but it wasn't me - I only referred to 'elites'.

You seem to have the view I'm defending New labour, I'm not. I'm simply saying that the Tories and particularly the Thatcherites are at least as bad. It is certain that the Tories then and now had probably more support from the elites. Thatcher was rubbish and so are Blair and Brown.

I'm simply against corporatism and social democracy and want to see the cause of the common man championed by common men themselves.

Britannist · 20-04-2008, 08:44 AM

Thank you for your reply.

British-Conservatism · 20-04-2008, 08:55 AM

Thather sold off half our national economy for ideological reasons.
Selling off our gas and oil was economic insanity.

BonnieDundee · 20-04-2008, 08:56 AM

Particularly when she sold it to big business and her rich friends.

Britannist · 20-04-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Thatcher sold off half our national economy for ideological reasons. Selling off our gas and oil was economic insanity.

So you would like to go back to the days in the 1970's when people had to wait up to six months for a new telephone line to be installed by the state-owned Post Office?

Lady Thatcher's privatisation brought down coach and air fares and she let people buy their council houses.

She enabled the working class to become more mobile.

Labour's ruling 'elite' have no knowledge of the working class or any interest in helping the working class.

British-Conservatism · 20-04-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

So you would like to go back to the days in the 1970's when people had to wait up to six months for a new telephone line to be installed by the state-owned Post Office?

Lady Thatcher's privatisation brought down coach and air fares and she let people buy their council houses.

She enabled the working class to become more mobile.

Labour's ruling 'elite' have no knowledge of the working class or any interest in helping the working class.

I would like to go back to the days when the Russians couldnt cut off our gas supply.
Thatcher did nothing for the Working Class.
She destroyed the most productive and one of the cheapest coal industries in Europe then bought electricity from France and imported 51 million tons of coal a year.

BonnieDundee · 20-04-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

So you would like to go back to the days in the 1970's when people had to wait up to six months for a new telephone line to be installed by the state-owned Post Office?

Lady Thatcher's privatisation brought down coach and air fares and she let people buy their council houses.

She enabled the working class to become more mobile.

Her privatisation was about helping big business and her rich mates. There is precious little difference in practice between nationalisation and corporatisation.

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Labour's ruling 'elite' have no knowledge of the working class or any interest in helping the working class.

That is at least as true of Thatcher and the Tories.

rjt · 20-04-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

I would like to go back to the days when the Russians couldnt cut off our gas supply.
Thatcher did nothing for the Working Class.
She destroyed the most productive and one of the cheapest coal industries in Europe then bought electricity from France and imported 51 million tons of coal a year.

Mrs Thatcher turned many of the working class into owners instead of being dependant on the state, they should thank her for that.

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