Bigotry against Scots.

Smidgey · 17-04-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

I don't think they hurt the economy, they simply annoy some English and represent Scottish dependence.

It is plain as day that the enormous size of the Scottish public sector is hurting the economy.

Hartlepool · 17-04-2008, 06:48 PM

Most think its the enormous size of the scotchies greed that has, and still is, hurting our national economy, Smidgey.

Selfish bustards.

Britannist · 17-04-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

The Conservatives said this. The real reason was they knew they wouldn't be able to get elected in many. But they couldn't actually say this.

I do not agree. With a current 16% opinion poll rating the Conservatives would win majority control of most of the EU-backed 'regional' assemblies Labour (Lie-bour) wanted to set up in England. And before you ask for "proof" (as you seem to do quite often) about the 16% poll lead - the figure comes from this week's Sunday Times.

Conservatives are against bureaucracy. That is why most Conservative rank-and-file members oppose Labour's unwanted 'regional' assembly plan and it is why Conservative understandably do not want the EU eurocrats and EU Superstate meddling in the internal affairs of our nation.

Britannist · 17-04-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Yes, I accept your position and acknowledge your wisdom in perceiving Brown's tactic for what it truly is.

Perhaps I should remind you that, unlike some English nationalists, I am more flexible about the UK - If a mutually acceptable constitutional settlement can be reached whereby the UK remains in existence, that does not offend any of my principles. Indeed, history over the longer term suggests that the UK is much better than the sum of its parts. Current constitutional difficulties, if wisely handled, could pave the way to a new golden era for Great Britain!

Another interesting posting from you, Cassie

- and thank you for your kind words (quoted above).

Britannist · 17-04-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

My opposition to the EEC/EU has always been founded on a strengthened Commonwealth of equal partners, and (for example) I was aware decades ago that India, in proper partnership, could not only have provided a huge market.........Instead, we (the whole of the UK) have been subjected to short-termism in which British citizens have taken third place to short-sighted commercial interests . . . and still do.

Cassie - your opposition to the EEC/EU (you wrote elsewhere that you wisely voted against the UK staying in the EEC straitjacket in the 1975 referendum) is welcome and admirable.

All pro-England people should oppose the EEC/EU.

The Commonwealth is reportedly looking at forming a free trade area (FTA) - and three Commonwealth nations would be prevented from joining it. Those nations are the UK, Cyprus and Malta and all three could not enter a Commonwealth FTA as long as we are all stuck in the EU.

You are, of course, right, Cassie, to mention the importance of Commonwealth member India - a nation with a fast-growing economy and whose people, to our advantage, mostly can speak our language.

Smidgey · 17-04-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Most think its the enormous size of the scotchies greed that has, and still is, hurting our national economy, Smidgey.

Selfish bustards.

Perhaps, but I don't think you can call five million people greedy.

Unless you were being facetious and I just didn't get it.

cassie · 18-04-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Cassie - your opposition to the EEC/EU (you wrote elsewhere that you wisely voted against the UK staying in the EEC straitjacket in the 1975 referendum) is welcome and admirable.

All pro-England people should oppose the EEC/EU.

The Commonwealth is reportedly looking at forming a free trade area (FTA) - and three Commonwealth nations would be prevented from joining it. Those nations are the UK, Cyprus and Malta and all three could not enter a Commonwealth FTA as long as we are all stuck in the EU.

You are, of course, right, Cassie, to mention the importance of Commonwealth member India - a nation with a fast-growing economy and whose people, to our advantage, mostly can speak our language.

Thank you. To be fair, I never met anyone in the EDP who was other than firmly anti-EU.

Your report of a Commonwealth FTA is interesting. Those of us old enough to remember, will know of the butter and lamb which we used to import very cheaply from New Zealand, plus the wheat grain and cheddar from Canada, not to leave out imports from Australia which included wool.

Thanks to the amazing foresight of our leaders - Heath, Major, Blair and Brown - we are now well placed to suffer from both high prices and shortages of foodstuffs by reason of their cunning plans to place us at the mercy of the EU and international companies! Our self sufficiency in food production - such as it was - has been shot to pieces.

We should be afraid, very afraid because, not only are we vulnerable by reason of the importing which is now necessary, we are also vulnerable to yet further even greater mass immigration from Africa and other parts of the world affected by global warming and their own food shortages. Already there are reports of Somalis and others entering the EU zone, being granted indefinite leave to remain, then making their way to England!

The fools in charge of our destiny appear not to have grasped the nature of the problems confronting us, let alone start to devise solutions - assuming they have the will to do so! In any event, who can have confidence in those who appear to be mucking up Education in England (of course!) with the badly planned introduction of diplomas?

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Hartlepool · 18-04-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Perhaps, but I don't think you can call five million people greedy.

Unless you were being facetious and I just didn't get it.

The greed of the scotchies as in "government",they are even now trying to gather more of the UK taxpayers money to keep them in good stead for their limited future.(supposing they get independence that is)

Anyway,Smidgey,you are already aware of all of this stuff.

Little Englander (sour) · 18-04-2008, 07:14 PM

No harm is done by constantly reminding people of the present inequable state of affairs.

BonnieDundee · 20-04-2008, 03:10 AM

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No harm is done by constantly reminding people of the present inequable state of affairs.

Perhaps, making bigoted remarks does harm though.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,814 Party: Popular Democrats	Most think its the enormous size of the scotchies greed that has, and still is, hurting our national economy, Smidgey. Selfish bustards.