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Old 23-03-2008, 11:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Mention it all you like; but for as long as I don't make cheap shots at you I'd appreciate the same courtesy in return. I'm not going to divulge too much of my personal life on a public forum either.
My sincere apologies if this is what you think. I have no intention of making any cheap shots at anyone on here, especially any student. I merely point out that, as a student, your philosophy of everyone being either moocher or looter shows a lack of understanding of people. This is not a dig, merely an understanding that you are probably of a young age and thus of limited experience. Something all of us go through, some more than others.

The point I made about working was not made clear enough. You, obviously, don't have a family to feed or need to pay the bills that go with having a family. Working for minimum wage does not cover the expenses some people have with families. As such, when a well paid job is lost because the employer can get an immigrant to do the same job for a lot less that is when the family suffers.
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Old 23-03-2008, 11:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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My sincere apologies if this is what you think. I have no intention of making any cheap shots at anyone on here, especially any student. I merely point out that, as a student, your philosophy of everyone being either moocher or looter shows a lack of understanding of people.
Thanks. I didn't say that though, I said moochers and looters were a large part of the BNP.

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The point I made about working was not made clear enough. You, obviously, don't have a family to feed
No, and I will absolutely not have one until I am in a situation to provide for one. Not just the basics either, unless I become very successful I won't have one.

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This is true. Though I do believe I could, right now, were I to discontinue my studies.

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Working for minimum wage does not cover the expenses some people have with families.
Then they shouldn't have them. Their lifestyle choice, their actions, their burden.

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As such, when a well paid job is lost because the employer can get an immigrant to do the same job for a lot less that is when the family suffers.
This is the concept of a moocher. They believe excuses are substitutes for productivity. If I opened a shop now, next door to an existing shop and selling the same thing for twice the price, but I pleaded to you as you passed by that I needed to feed my family. Would you choose my shop?
You say I have never had to work for a family, but have you ever had to employ? It is a two way process.
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Old 24-03-2008, 12:53 AM   #23 (permalink)
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the reasons why im pessimistic about the chance of none-liblabcon parties ever getting in under this system:
1) the votes of people who care about politics are diluted by people who just always vote one of the big three, based on the story they saw on bbc news 1 week ago about them decreasing taxes/opening new hospitals or something.
2) most people who vote in opinion polls like yougov etc are people who actually care about the politics, meaning small parties can do very well in opinion polls, but the people i described in #1 are the ones who choose who gets the seats.
3) the biased media/bleeding heart liberals making people think the none-liblabcon parties are all "extremists"/"nazis"/other bad terms.

its just like how in the USA, on online polls Ron Paul always got a very high rating, but he only got something like 20 of the 2000-something "delagates" in the real election, due to the media not recognising he exists causing alot of people to not even know he exists, and the votes of people who actually look at the policies being highly diluted by people who decide who to vote for off random stories on the government-controlled biased media.

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If the Media backed us we wouldn't need PR!
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Old 24-03-2008, 01:09 AM   #25 (permalink)
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the mainstream media will probably never properly recognise the BNP, UKIP, english democrats etc as legit political parties due to that the mainstream media is government controlled.
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Old 24-03-2008, 01:36 AM   #26 (permalink)
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the mainstream media will probably never properly recognise the BNP, UKIP, english democrats etc as legit political parties due to that the mainstream media is government controlled.
And this the problem we need to get as many as posible to understand that the big media in Britain is againist them and that the three main party are no longer the option to make any decent change to the country anymore and way round this problem is to use the media system they can hardly control the internet!.
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looking at the way our three main political parties behave, I would suggest anyone with an ounce of common sense would vote BNP !
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Your logic is laughable.
Even if it were a choice between the BNP and the big three, I would spit on the ballot paper. As it happens there actually are some moral alternatives.
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This is what Sharon Ebanks posted on the conservative democratic alliance blog on the "Far Right Today" thread

The BNP spends 5.9% on elections, where is the other 94%? YOU ARE ALL BEING USED. The BNP isn't a political party. Why don't you ask Labour/Con/Lib what percentage they spend on elections.
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