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Old 06-04-2008, 11:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Also you are going to have to show proof of your accusations against the SNP and Ireland. You might be right about the latter, they would of wished to avoid invasion by Germany, but the SNP was a leftwing, socialist even Marxist party and would of been against fascism.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:55 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Do you not have a grasp of basic logic. What you have said does not contradict what I have said.

It became extremely waealthy. If it hadn't benefited it wouldn't of expended such effort to keep an empire.
You claimed we owe you for being the best fighting units, yet I pointed out that 'some' supported the Nazi's. So I have no idea what you mean by attacking my logic.
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Also you are going to have to show proof of your accusations against the SNP and Ireland. You might be right about the latter, they would of wished to avoid invasion by Germany, but the SNP was a leftwing, socialist even Marxist party and would of been against fascism.
Supported by the far-right in the USA and wasn't Hitler and Stalin a bit socialist?

I take it you are a Marxist?
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It became extremely wealthy. If it hadn't benefited it wouldn't of expended such effort to keep an empire.
England was already wealthy and was probably why Scotland wanted the union.
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You claimed we owe you for being the best fighting units, yet I pointed out that 'some' supported the Nazi's. So I have no idea what you mean by attacking my logic.
The problems in your logic were two-fold. First you didn't prove it, you made a random assertion. Secondly it doesn't contradict that fact that highlanders were well known as the fiercist allied units.
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Supported by the far-right in the USA and wasn't Hitler and Stalin a bit socialist?
Stalin was supported by Leninist socialists. Hitler and all fascists was bitterly opposed by socialists and the left. I don't know what Stalin has to do with anything.

Do you have a complusion to bring up irrelevancies and not make much sense? I really have no idea what you mean by bringing up the far right in the USA.


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England was already wealthy and was probably why Scotland wanted the union.
If you read the histories you will see that the union was forced on Scotland through bribery and threats particularly aimed at the Scottish nobility who were the ones who made the choice. It was England and the whig oligarchy who forced through the union.
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The problems in your logic were two-fold. First you didn't prove it, you made a random assertion. Secondly it doesn't contradict that fact that highlanders were well known as the fiercist allied units.
I haven't seen you prove anything, just a lot of hearsay, which is suggesting the English are all evil and the Scots are all innocent victims. True that the u-boats accusation is debatable, but not necessarily untrue. Hitler did have support from a lot of Catholics as he was one himself and was close with the Vatican. Some say it was mainly the IRA that supported him? Who knows for sure?

Many paid in that war, even with their own lives, the idea that the highlanders somehow superior to all the other allies sounds like hype.
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If you read the histories you will see that the union was forced on Scotland through bribery and threats particularly aimed at the Scottish nobility who were the ones who made the choice. It was England and the whig oligarchy who forced through the union.
Yep, it's all England's fault, even though the estates in Scotland petitioned for a union many times after a failed attempt to unite the parliaments by a Scottish king.

The English main concern was that if no union existed then Scotland may form alliances against England. So sure, England wasn't the angels, but neither was Scotland.
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Hitler and all fascists was bitterly opposed by socialists and the left.
In April, 1920, Hitler advocated that the party should change its name to the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). Hitler ended up slightly right of center.

Stalin was a far-lefty who got into power as a socialist and was the biggest fascist of them all.
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Am I the only one who thinks that the golden ages of England and Scotland happened after the treaty of union?
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