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Old 12-03-2008, 11:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Every word in this post is true. How Ashley Mote can look at himself in the mirror in the morning escapes me. He betrayed the hope and trust that so many placed in him.
Not unlike most of the Members of Parliament currently sitting in seats that are supposed to be for people prepared to represent their constituants, not line their own pockets, or members of their families.
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Not unlike most of the Members of Parliament currently sitting in seats that are supposed to be for people prepared to represent their constituants, not line their own pockets, or members of their families.
Who of them have been convicted of benefit fraud? Who of them is guilty of benefit fraud in your opinion but currently unconvicted?

Do you agree with the comments of Adrian Davies? I do.

Why is BNPtv and therefore the BNP associating itself with a convicted benefits fraudster. Not someone who didn't declare £500 of income to the department in order to help buy their children new school uniforms but someone who took tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money that he had no right to.
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Old 13-03-2008, 01:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Who of them have been convicted of benefit fraud? Who of them is guilty of benefit fraud in your opinion but currently unconvicted?

Do you agree with the comments of Adrian Davies? I do.

Why is BNPtv and therefore the BNP associating itself with a convicted benefits fraudster. Not someone who didn't declare £500 of income to the department in order to help buy their children new school uniforms but someone who took tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money that he had no right to.
Even so. He seems to feel no shame at robbing the public purse. Yuk!
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He is proud of the fact that he has cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands more on his trial and conviction. Everyone has a right to a hearing, but how many other criminals argue that the cost of investigating their crimes is a waste of public funds. He was guilty and could have saved everyone a lot of hassle by pleading guilty at the first opportunity instead of wasting the time of the EU committees who had to investigate his claim for immunity and the time of DWP and Chichester District Council who had to prepare a complex case against him. AM lied at all of his interviews and lied in the witness box when he denied any knowledge of what he was doing; he hampered the investigation by refusing access to his bank accounts and losing/destroying critical documents that any halfway competent businessman would have retained (7 years is a good timescale being the time your VAT returns can come back to haunt you). His argument that the investigation of his crime was a waste of public money could be applied to the effort the police might put into preparing a case against a serial burglar to see him given a light sentence or fine (prison is also a waste of public funds if you look at it that way). Why not scrap the police altogether and skip prosecutions and prisons as they cost an inordinate amount of money?

Of course Ashley Mote is not to blame - his lawyers, the judge, those grotty and thick jurors, the local government officials protecting our funds are guilty of wasting time and money:

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How any man can respect someone responsible for the writing of the article in the above link beats me.

Ashley Mote is a convicted criminal. He has let down every one of his constituents, he has let down every member of the Eurosceptic movement and everyone who believed him (as I did) when he said there was not a shred of evidence. Oddly there was enough evidence to secure 21 convictions on the basis of 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

I find it incredible that 'right-wingers' who would fill our prisons with rapists, murderers, drug dealers, fraudsters and other low life baulk at the conviction of one of their own using the same processes that every single Englishman is subject to. I find it incredible, after Mote's attempt to avoid prosecution by claiming an immunity he does not have and which he would condemn in every other MP had they tried the scam, that anyone can respect him.

Ashley Mote is a hypocrite and criminal. These are published facts that every reader of our national press is aware of. His friends should stand by him as a repentant sinner (ha!), but to support a man who has no shame and who blames everyone else is unbelievable.
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Will he be the BNP's first MEP ?
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I started to watch the video clip, but after about 20 seconds I was so repulsed by the evasive dishonesty of Mote's introductory spiel about himself that I had to switch off.

"As you know I was elected to the European Parliament in 2004 on the 'get out of Europe' ticket, and I've sat ever since then as an independent MEP..."

BZZZZ!

Let's stop you right there Mr Mote! Seems that - without actually lying - you have very skillfully skated over the fact that you were elected on a UKIP ticket and were thrown out of that party just a few days after the election because of your pending prosecution for benefit fraud. No mention of that at all, in fact.

After that, I see no reason to waste any moments of my life watching the rest of this video.
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Do you agree with the comments of Adrian Davies? I do.
Yes, I do agree with him. Scum like this should have all their posessions confiscated and sold off to pay back the taxpayer for the money they've embezzled. I, and a few other members of the BNP, would be pretty peed off if this git was taken on board. Such a move would be beyond understanding. We've enough baggage to deal with without the fallout from him.

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Why is BNPtv and therefore the BNP associating itself with a convicted benefits fraudster. Not someone who didn't declare £500 of income to the department in order to help buy their children new school uniforms but someone who took tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money that he had no right to.
I don't know whether he approached BNPtv or he was approached, but I can only surmise there was an ulterior motive behind him being interviewed. I just don't know what it is yet....
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Glad you said 'first'...

Seriously though, I doubt it, unless he wants to stick two fingers up at the system. One thing about this that I don't understand and perhaps one of you EU experts can explain...

AM was 'elected' as a MEP. I thought Euro Elections were done on Proportional Representation (PR). If this is the case, then surely if he quits the Party (or in this case gets kicked out) a replacement should be chosen by the Party that was allocated the seat under PR and he ceases to be an MEP.

Should the same not have happened with Kilroy-Silk?
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Yes, I do agree with him. Scum like this should have all their posessions confiscated and sold off to pay back the taxpayer for the money they've embezzled. I, and a few other members of the BNP, would be pretty peed off if this git was taken on board. Such a move would be beyond understanding. We've enough baggage to deal with without the fallout from him.



I don't know whether he approached BNPtv or he was approached, but I can only surmise there was an ulterior motive behind him being interviewed. I just don't know what it is yet....
Thank you for your comments Hunter. He must know the only way he has any prospect of staying in the European Parliament is to be a BNP candidate. I wonder if your party has the sense to reject him.
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When Ashley Mote wrote 'Vigilance', there was no more passionate advocate of the virtues of English trial by jury than him. How he railed against its replacement by tyrannical paid Europeab Union professional judges!

But when he himself was on trial for massive fraud, this is what he wrote about the jury that tried him - LOL!

QUOTE FROM ASHLEY MOTE'S WEBSITE:

"There was no possibility of being tried by a jury of 12 of my peers, as required by law. I am over 70 and spent half a lifetime in international business. Portsmouth failed to produce a jury of such people. Half looked like students [whatever next! - T.B.] and others well under 30 [fancy allowing anyone under 30 on a jury! - T.B.], none wore suits or ties [Aaaaargh! - T.B.], three were practical looking housewives [they should be banned from jury service - T.B.] and one older man appeared to have spent most of his life in a pub. The foreman, probably about 30, was a rather obvious clever-clogs [i.e. unlike Ashley Mote - T.B.] who even brought the jury back at one point to ask for a calculator when both the defence and prosecution were agreed on all the figures! [er, £70,000 he shouldn't have claimed - T.B.]

"Their verdicts were a demonstrable muddle. How can identical charges with identical wordings, apart from different dates, produce guilty and not-guilty verdicts on the same evidence? That cannot be credible. In one contradictory instance the two charges were identical bar one day".

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Time for a more 'professional' approach, is it, Ashley?

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