Originally Posted by The Guvnah

... and furthermore

Passing appropriated resemblence to a party of the right and nothing more, certainly not close enough for me to encompass. So they won't reciprocate? what arrogance, do they (UKIP) believe that a handful of MEPs feeding at the trough confers a superiority?

Originally Posted by Millennium3

Although no longer a member of UKIP, it seems to me that it is essential to get some members of the anti EU parties into the HofC at the next GE so that the case can be made, there, for changing our relationship with Europe. I would favour a 'British Democratic Alliance' being formed by these parties, agreeing a relatively simple manifesto [item 1. A post ratification referendum on the LT] and allocating constituencies to each party, based on strength.

Although the Lords Constitution committee have ruled that we can get out any time we choose, I understand there is a clause in the LT which requires the applications of member countries who wish to leave to be subject to a vote through QMV, which comes into force 5 years after the Treaty has been ratified. In order to be able to act within this time scale, it would be necessary for anti EU MPs to be the majority by the GE after next [this would be close in terms of timing]. This extremely difficult task would be virtually impossible if at least some anti EUers are not elected to the next Parliament.

Originally Posted by Hunter

Exactly the point I was making M3. The UKIP have to decide if they have the best interest of the UK at heart, or to go along with the mainstream Parties in the hope they will be accepted by them. For it is beyond any shadow of a doubt that the LibLabCon Party seem hell bent on betraying us to the EU.

Originally Posted by Millennium3

Yes, unfortunately, it does appear that NF [leader beyond the next GE] is not so keen on changing our relationship with Europe as he is in getting a greater strength of MEPs at the worthless EU Parliament. It is the reason I am no longer a member.

Originally Posted by Hunter

I believe he took time out from Europe to stand as a PPC in a recent by-election. No doubt putting one or two local noses out of joint.

Had he won that seat, do you think he would he have resigned his European seat, or, as some Scottish MP's have managed to do, hang on to both (while reaping the 'rewards' of both)?

Originally Posted by Hunter

This would seem to be the case. Though I think the UKIP, in this case, are more centre of the field - namely sitting on the fence...

Originally Posted by The Guvnah

.....Maybe we'll see them on the barricades eh?

Originally Posted by Hunter

Logic would dictate that as both Parties claim to want rid of this farce of a government, and both are a bit strapped for cash, it would be sensible to work together rather than split a vote that could otherwise see the labour candidate well and truely trounced.

Originally Posted by kernow

BNP supporters fail to see that more people are anti BNP than pro! A lot of UKIP supporters (me included) would no longer be members or vote for UKIP if they linked up with the BNP! I'm against mass immigration , but I don't want to kick people out just because I don't like their colour!