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Old 26-02-2008, 09:26 PM   #41 (permalink)
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It's much too early to give up.

Last April the sEUrchlight Mob wrote that I am [they must have meant me as I was the only one fingered in the article] ambivalent about the BNP.

You know, they have got that bit right.

On the point you ask about Nick Griffin: My answer is he will succeed or he will fail. The BNP are still a small ripple on the surface of the political pond.

This thread is comparing membership figures, Well, when either one party or both parties break through the 100k membership threshold then one may begin to think in terms of the ripple becoming a wave. Unless a critical [membership] mass is achieved everything that has occured during the past ten weeks is going to of no consequence when the History books are written. Not even a Footnote will there be.

I don't think its the number of members that will cause any 'wave', but the results of elections. Given the utter contempt people are beginning to have for the mainstream politicians, it won't take much more to get them voting the 'fringe' Parties. UKIP, Green as well as the BNP could make a lot of headway at the next elections if they play it right (unless the Government find a way to use the EU to have us all banned). The critical mass could, if the politicians don't do something to repair the damage they've done, turn into a 'Tsunami' rather than a 'wave'.
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Old 27-02-2008, 09:39 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Hunter, that is the problem. NG has a dictators constitution and drives any potential opponents out of the party and if they are very able, before they get a chance to rival him. When you change your constitution to a democratic many of us will support you.
As for Steve Blake they are better off without him. He wrote to a correspondent that Churchill was "a tool of international finance."
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Old 27-02-2008, 10:48 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Hunter, that is the problem. NG has a dictators constitution and drives any potential opponents out of the party and if they are very able, before they get a chance to rival him. When you change your constitution to a democratic many of us will support you.
As for Steve Blake they are better off without him. He wrote to a correspondent that Churchill was "a tool of international finance."
I think you will find that Blake is a tool of the state!
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Old 27-02-2008, 11:10 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I think you will find that Blake is a tool of the state!
Yeh that you will find

As for the constitution you will find that the last challenger is very much in the BNP. Due to the opponents we have who will do anything to harm the BNP and our members we need to have a strong leadership who have the ability to act quickly to deal with any problems.
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Old 28-02-2008, 12:12 AM   #45 (permalink)
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As things stand at present, the BNP are on the threashold of making a breakthrough in British politics. The fact that the BNP still exists after so many years of establishment sponsored attacks on them should be indicitive of the resolve which the BNP members have concerning our country and it's people.

It has been acknowledged that the BNP is in line to win seats on the GLC. How many is uncertain, but you can be sure the establishment will do everything it can, legal or otherwise, to minimise the gains the BNP are making. All over the country councils are putting off local elections with the excuse that they are looking into becoming unitary trusts. I believe this is the tip of something much larger, and could be an attempt to put an end to smaller parties like the BNP.

Something much larger is brewing in politics and I fear it may be the beginning of the end for political choice in Britian as we edge closer to the European Union.
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Old 28-02-2008, 01:14 AM   #46 (permalink)
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As things stand at present, the BNP are on the threashold of making a breakthrough in British politics.
In last year's local elections the BNP predicted a net gain of 50 seats, and actually made a net gain of only one seat. That was before the leadership election purges in the late summer and the rebellion in December. The media have presumably lowered their expectations accordingly. As the BNP relies heavily on local media hype to score in elections, its chances of doing anything memorable in May are accordingly reduced.
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... says a man who thinks a white-minority Britain will be the same old Britain, with the same old values, the same old safe streets, the same old pride in our tradition and history ... in other words, someone who opinion isn't really very important.
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... says a man who thinks a white-minority Britain will be the same old Britain, with the same old values, the same old safe streets, the same old pride in our tradition and history ... in other words, someone who opinion isn't really very important.
Everyones opinion is important, irrespective of their political leaning. That is the whole basis of democracy. What everyone should accept is that everyone else is entitled to that opinion. The main problem BNP have is that not everyone is prepared to let us have our opinion. If we resort to the same tactics that the lefties use, ie trying to silence us because we don't agree with them, then we become no better than they are and deserve the derision the media heap on us.

TW is correct in his assessment, but not in its cause. The other Parties and media were hell-bent on stopping us and it would seem they succeeded to an extent. The fact that we made a gain shows that they were not completely successful. This is what's getting them worried as we get closer to the next round of local elections. If the mainstream Parties have to table early day motions to have Parliament hobble us, then we MUST be scaring them.

Personally, I find Tom's assessments quite interesting, especially when he has to quote from Searchlight. This just shows how desperate some people are when they have to use such sources.
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In last year's local elections the BNP predicted a net gain of 50 seats, and actually made a net gain of only one seat. That was before the leadership election purges in the late summer and the rebellion in December. The media have presumably lowered their expectations accordingly. As the BNP relies heavily on local media hype to score in elections, its chances of doing anything memorable in May are accordingly reduced.
The BNP vote still went up, however there was a major hype of the Labour and Conservatives which really damaged all the smaller parties. There was lots of opinion polls about Labour and Conservative support so people voted to try and keep the other out, I think you could say the media played a blinder.
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I agree. He looks too foreign to be a genuine racial purist or believer in a Jewish conspiracy which his comments imply. He has been tardy over the VoC forum and probably lost them support.
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