blueblood1920

I disagree with you on Griffin, everyone has faults but people like yourself are exagerating his faults. People make mistakes and people learn from them, Griffin knows where he has been wrong in the past and he is now a better man and leader for that.
To be honest Sadie was the only real person I was sad to see leave, but she was banged to rights. I do believe that she was fooled and brainwashed to join this crowd, but again she is 1 person and the party will get over her loss. How many people are now with VoC? Her region is now getting back on track and will be ready to fight the Euros to a very high standard. London was unaffected so the GLA campaign is going very well there recieving lots of local press coverage. FE from your posts everything seems to be a cup half empty rather than half full, I think no matter who was in charge you would find faults because deep down you are scared of giving something or someone your full support for some reason.

For_England

how wrong you are ... I already did give Griffin my full support - it's been a long process of losing that confidence. In my opinion - of course you will disagree - you downplay and overlook his very destructive faults. As I've always said, if I thought the BNP could win with Griffin in charge, I would follow.
You have a view from the ground - do you really think the VoC have lost their ground support? I am judging based upon their appalling handling of the situation (i.e. their forum has been up for more than a week, and they still haven't put the link in from the main VoC site).

Populist Lee

I never Speculate. I don't need a crystal ball.
I rely on Inside Information entirely.

You'd be amazed at what I was told one year ago exactly.

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who seek to reduce all the Peoples of the World
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POPULISM MEANS WHAT YOU WANT IS WHAT YOU GET

For_England

So then what's next? You don't support Griffin do you? State agents on both sides? Do we give up?

Populist Lee

It's much too early to give up.

Last April the sEUrchlight Mob wrote that I am [they must have meant me as I was the only one fingered in the article] ambivalent about the BNP.

You know, they have got that bit right.

On the point you ask about Nick Griffin: My answer is he will succeed or he will fail. The BNP are still a small ripple on the surface of the political pond.

This thread is comparing membership figures, Well, when either one party or both parties break through the 100k membership threshold then one may begin to think in terms of the ripple becoming a wave. Unless a critical [membership] mass is achieved everything that has occured during the past ten weeks is going to of no consequence when the History books are written. Not even a Footnote will there be.

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ENGLISH POPULISM
Stands as the only obstacle in the path of the Plutocrats
who seek to reduce all the Peoples of the World
to Economic and Political Slavery under Globalism


POPULISM MEANS WHAT YOU WANT IS WHAT YOU GET

blueblood1920

Well you fooled me, you have also supported different parties.
I know they have lost their ground support, they may of got a bit of support at the start but people soon realised what was happening. Plus a lot of their 'ground support' wasnt even their supporters so its difficult to say who supported them in the first place.
As for their VoC site it just reflects the problems the old BNP site had under blake, some times it would go days without any new news. It was old and outdated he seemed unable to give it any updates to bring it upto date with other websites.

For_England

I have?


Yep, I don't think you've lost anyone there. I must say, despite my initial dislike, the new BNP website has grown on me. But whatever, I'll start thinking about all this stuff again when it closer to the time for moving back. I'm quite sick of it all. Do I still wish the BNP well? It's the same old story - however bad the BNP is - however incompetent etc - people should still vote for them, because it's a matter of national life and death. The mkpd etc on here can't see the wood for the trrees. However, there's also the reality that millions of people sympathise with their view, and would rather let the country go to the dogs (or get out as I once did) then support the only party that will do something about it - warts and all.

For_England

Yes, the problem is though, I can't see it happening under any current leadership - probably not Griffin, certainly not the clowns at the VoC (poor Sadie to get involved with that bunch of losers).
And this isn't a sudden thing on my part - I've been unhappy for a while, I just keep it to myself till it reaches boiling point - same with Griffin and co.

blueblood1920

Yes some England party, hence the change in your name.



Lots disliked the site at the start, but it was in development and it has most of the features of the old site now and the new extras. It also looks better and more modern and doesnt have that awful white space.
You can see the old site by going to www2.bnp.org.uk and then you can look at the new and you can see the difference.
Well if anyone supports the party they would ignore the commies at Lancaster 'unity' and VoC and get on with promoting the BNP and what it stands for. If you have a problem with leadership vote against them in a leadership contest.

Hunter

As blueblood said, if there is to be any change in the BNP leadership, it should be done at the Conference. This is the mistake Sadie and co made, not making their challenge this way gave the Party no choice but to get rid. Any Party would have done the same. All they did was give the searchlight scum ammunition to play with.

If you are serious about wanting change, get a few like-minded folk and put it forward as a proposal. If it turns out that the vast majority of the membership want to keep things as they are, then so be it. You then have the choice of going along with it, or doing something else.... That is the democratic way.