Andrew Constantine

Whatever their position on the political spectrum, other parties should study the BNP to learn from their relative success at recruiting, motivating and retaining passionate activists.

It must be hard at times being a BNP member. Why do they join that party? Why do they work so hard? There have to be some reasons for all this commitment and hard work. Anyone know who is prepared to post on the forum?

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mkpdavies

Don't agree with that. They have been around for years and still can't bust through 10k.

They have the anti-establishment lure. They will always have their core base of racists and Hitler worshipers (sure they lose a few to parties that want to be more honest about it).

They definitely punch above their weight though, as most totaly dedicated fantical organisations do.

If they booted out some of their more obvious Nazis, they might have had a chance to progress. Thankfully, ego prevents them from doing it, so they will always be a sick fish in a small diseased pond.

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Kevin Adamson

OK I 'll give it a go ,BNP do as well as they do becase people are fed up with politics and the halfwits that run the country ,The BNP are the only party that will break the mould that is Westminster.They are not for me but having said that the way things are going they may in the future be the only option

Hunter

Strange though it may seem, the BNP doesn't have a direct recruitment strategy, at least not to my knowledge. I've only been a member for six months, but my reason for joining and becoming an activist is down to the simple fact that the UK is going down the pan thanks to the activities of our Parliamentary Parties.

Sometimes it is difficult being a member, as it is not unknown for people to lose their jobs because of it, and having to put up with the inane rantings of left-wing activists whose rhetoric is limited to Nazi and Fascist. There is also the constant 'bad-press' but that can easily be countered by showing the facts behind the stories.

I think I can safely say that we keep ourselves warm in this winter of discontent with the knowledge that we will be proven right - sooner rather that later. But hopefully that won't be too late.

I have not seen one thread or post on here that is in favour of, or even agrees with, the EU 'treaty' or the current immigration policy, or even the law & order policy that we are being forced to accept. The same can be said for the enforced multi-culturalism (under the guise of Political Correctness) which is slowly erroding our way of life. Yet how many members of this forum can say, hand on heart, that they believe the Party they are members of are doing their utmost to stem the tide?

The BNP have had bad press for years, yet slowly, if reluctantly, the 'press' is beginning to report news that the BNP have been advocating all along.

The BNP of today is not the same as that of five or ten years ago, there have been major changes to their manifesto and philosophy. Had these changes not been made, I would not have joined. Who knows, those areas that still cause some people to baulk at may be changed in time also.

But what made me choose the BNP over the other Parties?

Labour: In government for 10 years and have systematically destroyed our way of life, Armed Forcer, Police Force, Health Service. Their arrogance in their treatment of the public is nothing short of criminal - Hain, Harman, Miliband and Smith are just examples of the top of the pile - most of the groundworks are just as bad. Not to mention the sleaze and corruption..

Tories: Dave (hug a hoodie) Cameron has given us an impression of how the Tories will deal with Law & Order if they should be voted into Government. In Government for 10 years before Labour during which saw the beginnings of the dismantlement of our manufacturing industry, the destruction of the mining industry, and the introduction of poisons into our drinking water. They are constantly crying about the EU, yet plan to remain in the EU if elected and will NOT have a referendum on it (even though they claim to be calling for one now).

LibDems: Have no idea where they are going themselves. Their policy of Proportional Representation would be a disaster for Britain. Every country that has PR is in tatters - Italy leading the way having had an election almost every year since the end of WW2. Their only reason for wanting PR was to get more seats in Parliament, not the benefit of the people. However, since it has been proven at local elections that the BNP have been gaining support (38% in one area and 20-30% in others) they have gone a bit quiet over the PR policy.

UKIP: I tried to join this Party shortly before I joined the BNP. I had no reply to my letter, and when I tried to join this Forum I was refused access. Very close to what I believe, but when the UKIP won the 9 seats in the EU parliament, and have done nothing useful with them (of any use to Britain) then I looked elsewhere.

BNP: I came across the BNP Manifesto by accident. I 'googled' political manifestoes and started reading it before I realised which Party it belonged to. There are one or two issues that I am not entirely happy with, but they are minor compared to the major issues and, as I said earlier, the minor ones can be changed in time.

So, in a nutshell, the BNP has the ONLY manifesto that promises to deliver the goods and make the hard decisions necessary to reverse the damage that the other Parties (excluding UKIP) have done to Britain.

Adrian Davies

The BNP is not doing well. The audited figure for membership at p. 13 of the BNP’s most recent filed accounts for the year ending 31st December 2006 is 6,281, which is not a material change on 2005. It is, in effect, flat lining.

Such success as it has obtained is the result of hard work at local level by some good activists with no support from the centre (Ukippers, does this sound familiar?), the increasing consciousness that our country is being transformed into an alien land, probably governed by Sharia law, and the refusal of the Lib/Lab/Con single party with three names or the civic nationalist parties such as UKIP and the Eng Dems to talk about the inconvenient truth that national identity is in the last analysis largely a matter of common descent. In other words, it’s not ultimately about language, culture, religion, or even sovereignty, it’s in the blood.

In these extraordinarily propitious circumstances, the BNP should be doing vastly better than it is. Its failure to break out of a ghetto of the marginalised, the discontented and the disadvantaged raises disturbing questions, the answers to which need to be found, but won’t be for so long as Napoleon the Pig can persuade the sheep on his very own Animal Farm at Welshpool to blame Snowball for the failures of his corrupt and tyrannical regime.

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Hunter

Those figures are a year out of date. Since then a lot of changes have happened in this country, changes that have woken people to the reality that this is wrong and that we shouldn't be giving our way of living up just so some immigrants can feel better about living here. These are the sort of people who have decided to take action so their children will grow up under British Law with British customs and rights, not Islamic or European.

Spot on! Nail on the head sort of thing. Where you recognise the problem exists you have also recognised that most Britons will go out of their way to avoid confronting it. This is why I believe the BNP is the ONLY Party that has the moral and political courage to take the necessary steps to reverse the trend.

True. However I would be more inclined to put this problem down to having to overcome the very powerful media that has been hell-bent on portrayhing the BNP in the nastiest possible light for years. Add to this the colussion between the three main Parties to ban the BNP for all public platforms, broken only recently with the invitation to the Oxford debate, and it shows that things haven't been as easy as they should. What difference would be seen if the media were to back off?

Where does the corruption and tyranny come into this?

RTSTN

Putting aside mpkdavies sixth form type comments.
The people in the BNP are all sorts, some have had a political background before joining the BNP.
Many from the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems.
A lot from the Greens and unsurprisingly many from UKIP.
Plenty of members have never been involved in politics before they joined the BNP.

It may seemed old fashion now, but they are driven for love of their country, their country's history and it's people.
I think this counts for the hard work put in by BNP activists.
Also as your time progresses in the BNP, you become battle harden because of the non stop barrage of abuse, threats, lies and mpkdavies type name calling.

The BNP is always under non stop attack by the establishment.
BNP candidates and members have lost their jobs because of membership of the BNP, and also had their homes attacked, cars vandalised, threatening phone calls at home, threatening phone calls to their employers, abuse and lies of the worst kind about them in the local and sometimes national media, and on occasion physical attacks, sometimes on their doorsteps in front of their families.

It is straight forward belief that they are doing the right thing for their country and the future of it's people and their own family which drives them.

Vortex

Membership figures are not particularly relevant in guaging support for the BNP. Many potential members shy away from formally joining because of fears for their jobs, being targeted by left wing extremists and peer pressure about what is acceptable and what is not. UKIP. EDs, the left wing fringe groups, Greens, Respect etc etc don't have this problem.

The constant attacks by the state on the BNP are made to deter people from joining and to an extent they have succeeded, for now. But many people attend their meetings, subscribe to their publications and help them leaflet. That is why they are far more effective in local government elections than any minor party (excluding the Scots Nats, Plaid Cymru and possibly the Greens in certain areas).

Dissident Congress

The simple answer is Islam. Nearly 1 in 3 news articles the BNP posts on its website is about Islam and BNP literature isn't far behind. This is a very very inconvenient truth for UKIP, ED, Freedom Party, etc. that Islam is the touchstone issue that has resulted in the level of support (but not membership) the BNP has. The BNP hasn't always been anti-Islamic and they said virtually nothing about Islam prior to 9/11. After 9/11, attitudes of the public changed and Islam has become deeply unpopular in the west resulting in the uprising of anti-Islamic sites like TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World and all the anti-Islamic videos on YouTube that get hits in excess of 10,000. The BNP latched onto this change in popular opinion and it has worked wonders for them in gaining support. Now they disseminate numerous articles about Sharia law and quotes from the Koran that they would have considered of minimal relevance 10 years ago. Most of the opponents of Islam who support the BNP know next to nothing about Islam - and do not want to learn anything about Islam - but the fact is, they hate it and want it out of Britain.

DC has members in the BNP and they have reported that an increasing number of new recruits are of a different breed to those from 5 or 6 years ago. These people are socially liberal, have no interest of politics, have even less interest in patriotic or traditional British culture, but join because they hate Islam.

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