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Check out the following link. It explains in full what Haj Mohammad Amin al-Husseini got up to with Hitler.

Arafat's Hitler-loving <br> role model

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Frith

I know where you're coming from LB . I am referring to the leopard that was not able to change its spots that used to roam in nationalist circles (as the NS groups were constricting and dying, even among young people who thought they wanted to be "nazis"). The leopard that still roams because it can't find a home and that should be jettisoned. The new animal is growing so fast, as David mentioned further up the thread, that the leopard is still used to portray what was a reality in many of the early, prototypes of the so-called "nationalist" movement.

Nationalism and national socialism are becoming estranged. The separation caused some things and people to tear way from others and this is ongoing and the wounds are making the real NS groups angry. They tend to hide among right wing groups and they do troll, as you know. The left poses as these often. They're not that good at this any more as the old Hollyweird nazi is beginning to look out of place among mainstream patriotic movements.

It's a hard road to obtaining recognition for not being a nazi or a white supremacist or just an old fashioned racist or fascist because the left needs these appellations to junk the new movements. The rebel group proves that this evolution away from old buddies of the former "nationalist" movement is serious and determined. I agree with a number of their gripes. The financial ones I know nothing about and can't comment. But some of their complaints are justified and they represent this new force of patriotism that is devoid of all the old hangers on. Well, in theory it is. The leopards loping round the perimeter and licking wounds will try and join the new group. They have a vendetta against Griffin because he took a trajectory away from national socialism as envisaged by the old school neo nazis.

Griffin has never been a nazi, as such. He was a fascisti initially, I think, when he was very young and then evolved in a series of changes to what he is today. I have always seen him as a Welsh nationalist. He is very Welsh in so many ways and he has often said he doesn't really fit into the various slots for all-purpose "nationalism".

Just my take. I know more, of course, as I am not exactly a newbie of this movement.

Hunter

On this basis, the Jewish terrorist group known as the Stern Gang has were trying to form alliances with Nazi Germany as late as 1944.

Dissident Congress

The BNP hasn't always been anti-Muslim. They would accept white Muslims as members back in the days when Tyndall was at the helm providing they opposed religious extremism and Sharia law.

Either the issues surrounding Islam were under the BNP's radar during the 80s and 90s, or the BNP has latched onto popular opinion following 9/11 and launched a big propaganda exercise that works.

Hunter

Point me to any Party that doesn't latch on to popular opinion. In the 80s and early 90s Islamic issues were no threat. This has changed since the invasion of Iraq in 91. Since that time, the number of Muslims in Britain has greatly increased - to the point that they ignore British Law (Sharia Courts) and are actively seeking to impose their way of life on us. The difference between the BNP and other Parties is that the BNP promise to do something about it, not mollycoddle them, giving into their every demand.

Hartlepool

The bnp are not very successful because their numbers are now below 4,000 as per my buddy in Bridlington.

mkpdavies

I've noticed a lot less output from the Nazis of late.

Less council elections contested.
Less new releases (they were mostly against UKIP anyway).
Less Cyber trollism on the MSM sites.

Though they have kept up a reasonable effort here.

Looks like the insistance of backing Neo Nazi thugs like Collett is driving out a reasonable number of people, who fell for the "People Like You" campaign.

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What authority does your 'buddy' quote when he gave you those numbers?

david H

As a matter of fact Frith I was not thinking about Griffin or even the BNP, but the growing number of Tories, outside the party, who follow Enoch and that nationalist Conservative tradition. People like Robert Henderson, who was a columnist for Right Now! and now writes for the Quarterly Review or Tony Linsell the English nationalist who edits Steadfast and wrote the excellent "An English Nationalism." There are many more coming through who are not gulled by media propaganda, or hysterical panics about Nazis or unrealistic hopes for a blissful multi-Racial society. That is for those trapped in the past and students.

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blueblood1920

So in a matter of months they have went from 10,000 members down to having only 4,000? Yeh right.