Vortex

Hi Robert: I couldn't agree with you more about not only the lack of civility between people expressing views, but also the petty sniping between rivals supposedly on the same side. This behaviour is of course encouraged by the enemies of nationalism like Searchlight, and unfortunately many rise to the bait. Mind you I wouldn't worry about being banned by SF, there are more important things in life to do!

It is also true that some people loyal to Griffin ( I prefer to think I am loyal to the party, but recognise that an overwhemingly elected leader deserves loyalty as well), have engaged in such peurile abuse. Mind you some rather unenlightened people from the UKIP side of things on this forum have evinced their tendencies in this direction.

I will always engage in what I hope is stimulating, rational and thought provoking debate with anyone friend or foe, and to be fair this board is far better than most.

I didn't realise you did some of the Barking cartoons which were very hard hitting, and really did annoy the likes of Hodge and Cruddas, so well done for that! I even chuckled at your cartoons about NG, I hope I don't get purged for it!

Robert Edwards

I did ALL of the Barking cartoons but there will be no more for the BNP. I do not like their positions on Europe and Islam, for example.
Being banned from Stormfront is a great honour and the ban is worn like a badge of pride. There are no regrets there.
More and more do I concentrate on my own group within European Action and distance myself from the race hate mongers and monomaniacs.
I make this clear in the front page article of European Action newspaper.
You sound like a kindred spirit as far as restraint and good manners are concerned. Whatever your views, you have my respect.

Dissident Congress

Patience is a virtue. The BNP know their success comes a step at a time, so before they become a challenger to the parliamentary Labour Party, they must first eclipse the other small parties. If they cannot achieve this then what chance do they have of overthrowing the ruling establishment?

Another tactic of the BNP is taking the opposition vote rather than the vote of the ruling parties in order to become the official opposition themselves. In Barking and Dagenham in 2006 the real losers were the Lib-Dems, Tories, and indepedents rather than Labour. Moving from insignificance to becoming the official opposition may not register as a success at an election, but in reality, it is a success and the BNP knows this.


The BNP do have other policies on things like economics, industry, transport, and the environment. They are described in manifestos available on their website.

As I have previously stated, Islam is the touchstone issue that has given the BNP a high proportion of support since 2001. Unless another party becomes even more anti-Islamic than the BNP, then the BNP will escape unscathed whenever their policies are stolen by somebody else.

A hollow sham. Non-European immigrants rejected by Britain will apply to other EU countries and the majority will be accepted by at least one of them. They will use these EU countries as springboards to enter Britain as full EU citizens. It happened recently with Dutch passport holding Somalis, and Africans are applying for citizenship of Italy with the eventual aim of moving to Britain.

If immigrants can't enter through the front door they will enter through the back door.

dawsoid

Until the muslim states have nuclear weaponry (other than Pakistan which is in no state to use them at the moment), any attempt by the muslim communtiy to destroy the british democratic system would be a grave mistake...
(NB; I am not supporting the BNP, just the British people's right to vote for them)

Alex McKee

Couple of things:

No reply to a letter? What letter? Did you send a letter to UKIP? If so, where did you send it?

This forum is not an official UKIP forum. Indeed, at one point they couldn't stand this forum bearing the UKIP name even though at that point it was primarily inhabited by UKIP activists.

As for access being refused, I do not understand. You're a member of this forum. How can you be a member if you were refused?

UKIP won 12 seats in the EU Parliament. We have lost 3 due to the dishonesty of Ashley Mote, the impatience of Robert Kilroy-Silk and one of our MEP's, Tom Wise, is currently suspended pending investigation for fraud.

It's not pretty, I have to admit, but one was hardly UKIP's fault, one was Kilroy's fault and one is yet to be determined.

As to the accusation that we haven't done anything, you are almost completely right. UKIP MEP's have done a few useful things but they are of limited use.

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Hunter

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this Alex, I've been busy preparing for Local Elections....

I'm unable to, at present, trace the address I wrote to for the UKIP membership details. The info may have been put into the recycling bag months ago.

What I can confirm is the date I initially tried to register on this Forum, hoping I could get some info about the delay in UKIP membership details.

I received the computer generated reply to my membership on 14/06/07. I can PM you a copy if you wish.

As I was unable to log on to the Forum, I sent an email to which no reply was received. I can PM this also if you wish.

As no replies were received regarding membership of UKIP or the Forum, I decided to look elsewhere and thus came to be a BNP member....

I have, obviously, re-registered onto the forum successfully, but not with the same details as before.

I have no reason to doubt your word that the UKIP MEPs have done anything useful during their time in office. The problem is that nobody else knows about it. They should make more use of the media to announce their successes.

There have also been some glaring failures. Not least of which is the failure to highlight the budgeting fiasco of the EU, where accounts have never been signed off....massive fraud possible with such a system. I wrote to all NW MEPs on this issue, and only received a reply a month later, during which time it all became public.

So, in a nutshell, that is why the UKIP lost a potential member and the BNP gained one.