Why are the BNP so successful?

Tom Wilde · 19-02-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter

The one thing the media is afraid of is becoming accountable. When the BNP get to that position, we will make them accountable. Patience is the name of the game here....

Thank you for confirming something I've long suspected.

david H · 19-02-2008, 10:54 PM

Tom, what is wrong with the media being accountable for their words and actions? Do you think they should keep their privilege?

Tom Wilde · 19-02-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by david H

Tom, what is wrong with the media being accountable for their words and actions? Do you think they should keep their privilege?

I think it is a fascinating idea. Care to explain how this would work in practice?
(Here, have some more rope!)

david H · 20-02-2008, 01:47 AM

What's in your mind Tom, is that you think he means they will hang them all when he has actually said they should be accountable. Slagging the BNP off is fine but it needs to be more than your personal fantasy. It needs an objective basis in reality.
Why, do you think that journalists should be able to do what they like while other people have to be accountable? Criticism of liberals is not just of their stated tenets but an underlying weakess that tolerates abuses.

Ihope · 20-02-2008, 02:21 AM

YouTube - Yeh Hum Naheen UK Single video
There are also pro islamic videos on you tube, one is this hit song saying they want peace, not war. It is Bush, the war criminal and power freak they don't like because he is evil, wants to control the globe and the minority suicide bombers blame it on the whole of the US being evil. Most of the islamic people are peaceful people are per the video.

Ihope · 20-02-2008, 02:23 AM

The BNP are already having their finances looked into, so somebody is trying to make them accountable now.

youcanhandlethetruth · 20-02-2008, 03:23 AM

Well said Ihope, "Most of the islamic people are peaceful people".

So why do the BNP give them such bad press ?

I thought this post had some extremely good comments too:

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

The simple answer is Islam. Nearly 1 in 3 news articles the BNP posts on its website is about Islam and BNP literature isn't far behind. This is a very very inconvenient truth for UKIP, ED, Freedom Party, etc. that Islam is the touchstone issue that has resulted in the level of support (but not membership) the BNP has. The BNP hasn't always been anti-Islamic and they said virtually nothing about Islam prior to 9/11. After 9/11, attitudes of the public changed and Islam has become deeply unpopular in the west resulting in the uprising of anti-Islamic sites like TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World and all the anti-Islamic videos on YouTube that get hits in excess of 10,000. The BNP latched onto this change in popular opinion and it has worked wonders for them in gaining support. Now they disseminate numerous articles about Sharia law and quotes from the Koran that they would have considered of minimal relevance 10 years ago. Most of the opponents of Islam who support the BNP know next to nothing about Islam - and do not want to learn anything about Islam - but the fact is, they hate it and want it out of Britain.
DC has members in the BNP and they have reported that an increasing number of new recruits are of a different breed to those from 5 or 6 years ago. These people are socially liberal, have no interest of politics, have even less interest in patriotic or traditional British culture, but join because they hate Islam.

Not that I agree with mass immigration, but when the BNP say "freedom of religion" I think it shows they really mean "as long as it's outside the UK"

Shame they can't point the finger at the real criminals of 9/11 - maybe they already know the the truth but fear political suicide if they acknowledged it.

However everyone (including UKIP) should wake up too - besides the justice we all deserve, it's the only chance they will get the people's mass support. Just look at Ron Paul (yes he was cheated by voting machines)

SuperiorSteve · 20-02-2008, 03:35 AM

Because like Hitler, they play on the fears of the people and they also exaggerate those fears to make themselves look like they are our only hope.

david H · 20-02-2008, 03:44 AM

DC, a correspondent of mine left the BNP because they are against tradition and want to start again. He was angered because he found them anti- monarchism.
Well, I share several concerns of the BNP, I have always objected to their belief in ideology as I have with Liberalism, Socialism, Communism and Marxism, and Nazism - they are ideologies that work towards some utopian future and try to erase traditions.

david H · 20-02-2008, 03:48 AM

This talk of the BNP playing on fears of the people tells us more than it is meant to. It is usually stated by people of establishment political persuasions who oppose the BNP. What it means is the BNP are not playing the game and should ignore people's fears like the other parties do!

19-02-2008, 10:54 PM	#112 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,906	Tom, what is wrong with the media being accountable for their words and actions? Do you think they should keep their privilege? __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

20-02-2008, 01:47 AM	#114 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,906	In the mind What's in your mind Tom, is that you think he means they will hang them all when he has actually said they should be accountable. Slagging the BNP off is fine but it needs to be more than your personal fantasy. It needs an objective basis in reality. Why, do you think that journalists should be able to do what they like while other people have to be accountable? Criticism of liberals is not just of their stated tenets but an underlying weakess that tolerates abuses. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

20-02-2008, 03:35 AM	#118 (permalink)
SuperiorSteve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 693	Because like Hitler, they play on the fears of the people and they also exaggerate those fears to make themselves look like they are our only hope. __________________ "Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life" Cecil Rhodes

20-02-2008, 03:44 AM	#119 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,906	Ideology DC, a correspondent of mine left the BNP because they are against tradition and want to start again. He was angered because he found them anti- monarchism. Well, I share several concerns of the BNP, I have always objected to their belief in ideology as I have with Liberalism, Socialism, Communism and Marxism, and Nazism - they are ideologies that work towards some utopian future and try to erase traditions. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

20-02-2008, 03:48 AM	#120 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,906	This talk of the BNP playing on fears of the people tells us more than it is meant to. It is usually stated by people of establishment political persuasions who oppose the BNP. What it means is the BNP are not playing the game and should ignore people's fears like the other parties do! __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

20-02-2008, 02:21 AM	#115 (permalink)
Ihope Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 96	YouTube - Yeh Hum Naheen UK Single video There are also pro islamic videos on you tube, one is this hit song saying they want peace, not war. It is Bush, the war criminal and power freak they don't like because he is evil, wants to control the globe and the minority suicide bombers blame it on the whole of the US being evil. Most of the islamic people are peaceful people are per the video.

20-02-2008, 02:23 AM	#116 (permalink)
Ihope Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 96	The BNP are already having their finances looked into, so somebody is trying to make them accountable now.

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