TomPhil

I was rather surprised to hear of the controversy that these comments had created. As far as I was aware, what the Archbishop was proposing has been the situation in Britain for a number of years:

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Zak64

It will if we are stupid enough to allow it. And what Canada does is not necessarily an example we should seek to emulate.

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Mikeuk

I haven't read the Archbishop's original lecture, but there can be no doubt that he has put his foot in it. Anybody who doubts the seriousness of what he has done should have heard what Archbishop Achigili of Kaduna, Nigeria, who has to deal with the cruelties inflicted in the name of Sharia Law had to say on R4 this afternoon.

Dr Williams's chief cheerleader today has been the Bishop of Hulme, the Rt Rev Stephen Lowe...

Remember this, from 2004?

22ANDUK

Get this man out.

He really is a pathetic, feeble and effete little man. He's not fit to do this job, and is certainly not doing the job he was chosen to - represent Christians and not Muslims.

Some of the 121 Comments from Bishops' backlash as Archbishop of Canterbury defends calls for sharia law | the Daily Mail

I am a Christian, but I no longer go to church because of Rowan Williams, who must be the most useless Archbishop of Canterbury ever. The man is a disgrace.

- Mike Randall, Worcester, England

Unbelievable! For the head of the Church of England to come out with such comments is an absolute disgrace and he should be made to resign immediately.

- Braduk, London

How can he say that this will promote cohesion. This is a Christian country how can these people dictate to us what laws they want to abide by. We would not be allowed to do that in their country. The British people are fed up with being dictated to. Enough is enough. Great Britain used to be a country to reckon with now it's a country to be taken advantage of.

- Jean Underwood, Romford, UK

This man is a silly old you-know-what and an appeaser who should be kicked out of office.

- Ian Millard, Exeter, UK

The Archbishop of Canterbury should be removed from public speaking. This is Britain and British laws are the laws of the land.
We should never allow Sharia law to take its place, otherwise we will have to accept laws from all other worldwide religons.

- John, Tendring, England


So it's fine for the UK law courts to adopt Sharia Law to fit Muslims' needs, but Christian people, in a historically Christian country, will be prosecuted for not promoting homosexuality? Something needs to change...

- Rebecca, London

The Archbishop must be thinking of converting the whole UK to Islam. The whole point of a democratic country is that you put your country first and then you are free to practice any religion you want. This country is a democracy. Please no more traitorous interfering do gooders or PC pirates running this country any longer, we have to make a stand against this madness.

- Rosie Harris, London, England

Everyone else has come here and got on with it: Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists... why should Muslims get things their way? If they don't like the laws of our society, they know what they can go.
When I visit a foreign country, I - like many other, am aware and am mindful of the laws in these countries.
A bit of respect both ways wouldn't go amiss here, guys.

- Ali, Worcester, UK

So, as I understand it, if you don't like the law of the land that most people observe you can set up a religion with its own laws and the Government/legal system won't touch you!

So: One law for the Anglicans, one for the Roman Catholics, one for Methodists, Baptists, Jehova Witnesses, Muslims, Hindus, Unification Church, Church of Scientology, Latter Day Saints etc., etc., etc.

The mind boggles.

- John Wood, Hull

NO, it isn't unavoidable. Unless we give in to them of course.

- Sid, Gateshead

This is insane! This is the UK. UK laws. We all abide by them no matter what our religion. Why have we got to adapt? You know, I've always found arguments when people tell me they want to/are emigrating. Now, I'm at a loss. I say good luck to them. When my children have finished their education we're off too. I don't see any future here long term for any of us.

- Debra, Essex

A very stupid man.

- Colin Taylor, Chatham, UK

Just ignore him.

- David Armstrong, Essex

What hope is there when fools such as this run the Church. The law is the law and no one should be above it.

- Norm, Newcastle, UK

Excuse me? Does this mean that the enclaves of ex pats can expect to run their areas according to British law in, shall we say, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan?

- Andyc, Cwmbran, UK

Comments like this do massive damage to social cohesion here in the UK, indeed the Archbishop shows why the Church of England has lost so much of its support. Has Saudi Arabia had to build a Christian Church and adopt secular laws to ensure they have social cohesion? Rowan Williams should resign and the Church of England should appoint the present Archbishop of York as head of our Church because he seems to understand what British people need and indeed want!

- Richard De Gerber, Kingston upon Thames

The day that happens, I'm out of this country.

- Ronda, Manchester

This is clearly a ruse by the Archbishop: at first Muslims will have to obey Shariah, later and the rest of us have to obey him and the Bible. I can't think of a worse prospect!

- Duncan, London, England

Get up off your knees and stand up for yourself and the faith you are the 'leader' of the Church of England!

- Colin Soames, London

Please please, we cannot go on bending rules for the minority. This is a Christian country, if those wishing to live under Sharia Law do not like our beliefs, they have the freedom of choice to settle happily in a country that abides by a law they do support.

- Maria, Beds

No wonder that Protestant churches are empty. Who'd follow the teachings of such a buffoon?

- Mike, Wales, UK

This is Britain. The rule of law is British law and should remain so. No exceptions. All who live in this country should be governed under one umbrella.

Thank goodness high levels of education, enlightenment and capitalism are spreading across the globe. Superstition of all types is on its way out. In a few hundred years time we will all be singing around the liberal flag.

- Mike Warren, Manchester

I do not relate to the British law these days, and I am a married, straight, white English Christian.

Can I make my own rules up to Rowan?

- Frank, Crawley, UK



I do wonder about the real aims and ambitions of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Might I remind him that this is still a Christian country and many of us expect the law to continue to reflect this.

- Gillian, Norwich

Nu Labour have ruined this country.

- Julian Holtom, Mirfield

It's about time he got a real job.

- Christine, Toronto, Canada

At the very least he has very little concept of job security.

- Tdavies, Canada

Speechless.

I can't see how anyone can remain a member of the Church of England with leadership comments like this. I, for one, will be leaving.

- Kate, Surrey

A good dose of Sharia law could be just the ticket for some of the yobs that rule our streets these days.

- Matt, Glasgow

I entirely agree with John, from Tendring. We are expected to obey the laws of any Llnd we visit or emigrate to. Do we indeed have to face up to the fact that some of our citizens do not relate to our British Legal system? Rubbish! Perhaps we need another Archbishop of Canterbury. He is fast losing respect!

- Alexis Mcmillan, Woking, United Kingdom

Why not?

- Pauline Humphrey, Athens , Greece

I despair with them.

- Dd, Gulf

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?

- Michael Perona, Minneapolis U.S.A.

What a stupid comment.

- Frances Judd, Earith, UK

He may be a bishop but he doesn't understand Christianity.

- David, UK

Bishop you are on the wrong side.

- Brian Keith, Ellesmere England

This is absolutely abominable.

- Loren, USA

No wonder your Church is empty.

- Brian Keith, Ellesmere England

The law is the law. Come to this country and live by our laws.

- Rob, London

Little wonder why no attends service at the Church of England anymore. Half of their churches are now bars. It's no surprise.

- Arthur M, Houston, USA

What utter nonsense!

- Tand, England

I despair of this country.

- David Bachauer, Manchester

Keep religion out of law and politics.

- Aaroon, Wembley

Rowan Williams is a fool who is doing what's left of the C of E untold harm. He should never have been appointed; he doesn't live in the real world.

- Jan, Swansea, UK

What ever happened to the laws of the land?

- Gerry, Spain

Time Williams gave up his position!

- Carol, South Australia

It's not April first is it?

- Richard, Dinan, France

This man is dangerously ignorant, unbelievably naive and blind to the feeling of the British. I think it is appropriate for him to step down at this point.

- William, New York, USA

"When in Rome" springs to mind. There are numerous points of exit from our once great country if you don't like the rules.

- K. Walsh-Johnson, UK

When is he retiring - do we know?

- Londoner, London, UK

No! It is not unavoidable. They should be made to adhere to the law of the land just like everyone else or leave.

- Andy, Silsden

Bring back Henry VIII, he had the right idea I think!

- Marian, Dartford, England

Keep out of this, Bishop.

- Keith, UK

This man shows how far he and the Church he represents are out of touch with real people's views.

- Bas, Scotland

The UK is disappearing bit by bit.

- Chad, Colorado, USA

I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

- Mark, London

What a load of utter rubbish.

- Julie, Cambridge, England

God help Britain. Thank God I now live in Germany where they would NOT tolerate such opinions and laws.


- Shirley Forrester, Germany


English Law should apply to all residents of the UK regardless of their faith.

- Sue, Wellington, NZ

The Bishop clearly wished to start a debate. He may now wish he had not done so.

- Rick Worth, Rochester UK

It is about time this weak kneed Archbishop realised who he represents.

- Don, London

What planet is he on?

- Anne, Herefordshire

Everyone has said it all.

- J Fuller, Doncaster, South Yorks

youcanhandlethetruth

The archbishops comments are a carefully crafted message on behalf of the govt to whip up anti Islamic feeling whilst the government carry on their multicultural destruction of the UK plan.

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The ArchMullicah of the Archcaliphate of Englandistan, his eminence
Rohiman Williams II of Canterbury today decreed a new Fatois.

”After the introduction of parts of Sharia law in 2009 proved so
successful, in order to increase inclusiveness, we intend to urge the
government of Britanistan to complete the work. The Chosque of
Englandistan has already benefitted greatly from Sharia marriage law.
Being able to perform marriage for up to five persons has proved to be
very popular.•

The special discount fees for quantity had proved financially
rewarding for the Chosque of England, enabling several new Chosque
Madrassas to be built.

But as the incidences of adultery had also increased in recent years
he stated that it was time to draw a line in the sand (or in the neck)
and introduce the full Sharia penalty system: now, instead of
committing adultery when stoned, people will be stoned for committing
adultery. This will follow on from the successful implementation of
the �hands off hoodies‘ policy introduced in 2010 after the hardly
lamented demise of ASBOS. Though a few hardened hoodies had introduced
the slogan ”Look! No hands" as defiance of the new laws, crime figures
for muggings had fallen dramatically. ”The new laws gave us a really
good handle on the issue" said the senior Amir of the Metropolistan
Police with a smirk.

Finally his eminence declared his pleasure in seeing how most Chosque
of Englandistan buildings had replaced the old outmoded crosses, both
externally and internally, and replaced them with the new, inclusive,
Croscents (a combined logo of crescent and cross designed by Saatchi
and Saatchi).

--
Rev Philip Foster 1 Barnfield, Common Lane, Hemingford Abbots,
Cambridgeshire PE28 9AX 01480 399098 Also SMP Ltd.

The Rev Philip Foster wrote a good little book on the EU. He is very, very on side.

mkpdavies

Looks like he has failed to me. The only anti-comments I hear are anti him.

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Kevin Adamson

I beg your pardon bluemerle,The Druids dont want this or any other mad person thank you very much. The idiot should be sacked!

Zak64

And now the loony lefty weird beard cative is defending his comments!

Archbishop defends sharia law comments - Telegraph

What he should be saying is "I Rowan Williams admit I am a witless cretin and I resign from my post immediately. Furthermore I am taking a lifelong vow of silence and I'm never going to open my stupid fat opinionated yap again. And now I'm going to go and live in a cave with some bats and spiders. They are more on my level than the people I supposedly lead!"


Perhaps weird beard should read this!

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22ANDUK

Unfortunately amongst these left, liberal leaning sorts as well as most public figures these days, there is no longer comprehension of 'doing the honest thing' and going.

Tony Blair would never go.

Sir Ian Blair won't go.

Derek Conway has never offered his resignation.

The Arch-Bishop won't go either.