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The Bear

Legalise drugs? Certainly. And let nature take it's course.

Reduce crime and cleanse the gene pool at the same time. Works for me as a solution.

youcanhandlethetruth

I'd like to ask a question to the people who think or voted:

"I Disagree With All These Points. No Currently Illicit Drugs Should Be Made Legal"

Should we go even further and ban current drugs which are legal, like alcohol ?

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youcanhandlethetruth

Oh darn, I've just noticed there is the choice "In Fact, We Should Continue To Fight Drugs AND Even Clamp Down On Alcohol And Tobacco".

Ok forget I exist (no sarcastic comments please).

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British-Conservatism

Agree with both of these points.

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youcanhandlethetruth

I do too.

But being cycnical for a second, the policy could be open to abuse.
If you got beat up by the police and had drugs placed on you, you'd be shafted twice over.

Despite that, very good idea from mkp

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LeCroc

Drugs make crime, even the police admit it. Drugs screw up many, many lives, even the addicts admit it. And did no-one see the TV documentary that shows what misery the drugs supply chain creates across the world.

And still people want them legalised.

Human trafficking and prostitution causes less misery in the world, you want to legalise that too, I expect.

youcanhandlethetruth

By legalizing something you are not necessarily advocating the use of something.

There's a lot of hippocrisy when it comes to "drugs" because there are many things which fall under that bracket.

Take alcohol for example - do you think that should be made illegal ?
It is a very bad drug and causes a lot of pain and suffering, but you will rarely find anyone condemning it.

Obviously the hard drugs should not be made available or legalized but if people can use the soft ones responsibly then that is a better alternative to protecting users and stopping crime gangs and the violence it creates.

Same goes for prostitution - if it's going to occur anyway(come on whether you agree or not, it's the oldest profession in the world) then isn't it better for everyone's protection to regulate it ? They do in Germany and I bet crime is down as a result. That's not to advocate it though, as I've already said.

As for human traffiking well, it's already been legalized, it's called immigration !

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The Bear

Attempting to ban "drugs" is a waste of time. It's like trying to ban sex.

Weak people like drugs and you can't stop people from doing what they like by making it illegal. Look at homosexuality. Making it illegal didn't stop any homosexuals for engaging in what they got up to, and nor has or will attempts to ban drugs. A

All that has happened is that the law of supply and demand has a seen supply limitation followed by the inevitable price rises with the consequential crime increase to get the cash to pay the price being asked.

Legalise all drugs and let nature take its course. It would destroy the market so cutting crime rates and the drugies would soon die out.

The knowledge of the latter would remove the attraction that they present right now by being a symbol of revolt for the young, so reducing the ongoing problem to those with a genetic disposition towards selfish gratification, and the sooner that gene is out of the gene pool the better.

Drug users are disgusting. Let them destroy themselves.

Smidgey

Maybe that's because they are illegal?

It always amazes me how people can see the horrific effects of the prohibition in 1920's America and fail to make the same comparison to drugs. Never mind the fact that the crime created by the booze barons in areas such as Chicago and New York is so similar to that caused by drug dealers in our own cities.

Can I ask you a question? What do you think is the inherent difference between the crime caused by the prohibition and the crime caused by drugs?

Those are different cases, since they involve the violation of an individuals rights, whereas on the other hand, making drugs legal liberates individual rights. Illegal drugs and human trafficking are actually within the same category - not a different one.

There is no difference between the violating of rights done by a government and that done by some vile criminal.

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