The BNP has split!

brad12jy · 21-01-2008, 10:25 PM

The long awaited split within the British National Party has finally happened. Despite the rebels insisting that their priority was to remain within the party and campaign for the removal of Nick Griffin as leader it now appears that they are making a real break by standing candidates against the BNP.

A few hours ago the rebels launched their Voice of Change website. Hardly the most inspiring site it nevertheless signals a change in tactics. Whilst it continues to claim that they will challenge Griffin in a leadership election in June it is clear that none of the nine sacked party officers believe that a) they will be reinstated and b) that they would stand a chance in any leadership election given that Griffin himself is allowed to decide on the election rules which in last year’s contest included the banning of any campaigning!

Instead, the website makes it clear that they are prepared to stand against Griffin’s BNP. “Voice of Change is an umbrella group to assist candidates who wish to stand as independent nationalists in the local elections in May 2008 and in any local by-elections throughout the year.”

This will badly affect the BNP in Yorkshire, the East Midlands, Scotland and Greater Manchester. In Yorkshire, which has been their most powerful region within the party for some time, there appears only one or two branches which remain loyal to the current leadership. Support for the rebellion is fairly solid across Scotland, though this is a far less important region for the party electorally. The strong East Midlands region will also be affected. While the region is split over support for the rebellion the loss of many of its key organisers, such as Sadie Graham and Wayne McDermott, the region’s competent election organiser, will be a severe blow to BNP in the short term.

The rebels were left with little option but to begin the move towards a separate party. Since announcing their decision to challenge Griffin’s leadership a week ago it is clear that many of their supporters recognised the futility in all this. Over the last 48 hours Searchlight received information from within Yorkshire BNP that many of its key organisers were preparing to make a break. The officers of Hull BNP has been the first to declare themselves as ‘Independent Nationalists’ but we expect others to follow shortly.

The move to support rival candidates will also be music to the ears of Nick Griffin. Whilst he must recognise that the party will suffer in May’s local elections in Yorkshire, and that he is likely to lose the vast majority of the region, he will also know that in the all-important London and European elections, both contested under PR, the internal problems within the BNP is unlikely to affect their vote.

He must also know that any move to support candidates against the BNP will immediately lead to expulsions.

The rebels, now operating under the banner Voice of Change, plan to hold a conference in the East Midlands on Sunday 27 January. Much will become clearer at this event but it is now already evident that the rebels have given up on wrestling control of the BNP away from Griffin and the split has occurred.
The BNP has split!

Vortex · 21-01-2008, 11:02 PM

You have regurgitated a link from a so called anti-fascist blog which in turn has cut and pasted it from Searchlight. Therefore, although there may be a ring of truth in it it will be massively overestimated and full of half truths and outright lies.

RTSTN · 21-01-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alteclansing

The long awaited split within the British National Party has finally happened. Despite the rebels insisting that their priority was to remain within the party and campaign for the removal of Nick Griffin as leader it now appears that they are making a real break by standing candidates against the BNP.

A few hours ago the rebels launched their Voice of Change website. Hardly the most inspiring site it nevertheless signals a change in tactics. Whilst it continues to claim that they will challenge Griffin in a leadership election in June it is clear that none of the nine sacked party officers believe that a) they will be reinstated and b) that they would stand a chance in any leadership election given that Griffin himself is allowed to decide on the election rules which in last year’s contest included the banning of any campaigning!

Instead, the website makes it clear that they are prepared to stand against Griffin’s BNP. “Voice of Change is an umbrella group to assist candidates who wish to stand as independent nationalists in the local elections in May 2008 and in any local by-elections throughout the year.”

This will badly affect the BNP in Yorkshire, the East Midlands, Scotland and Greater Manchester. In Yorkshire, which has been their most powerful region within the party for some time, there appears only one or two branches which remain loyal to the current leadership. Support for the rebellion is fairly solid across Scotland, though this is a far less important region for the party electorally. The strong East Midlands region will also be affected. While the region is split over support for the rebellion the loss of many of its key organisers, such as Sadie Graham and Wayne McDermott, the region’s competent election organiser, will be a severe blow to BNP in the short term.

The rebels were left with little option but to begin the move towards a separate party. Since announcing their decision to challenge Griffin’s leadership a week ago it is clear that many of their supporters recognised the futility in all this. Over the last 48 hours Searchlight received information from within Yorkshire BNP that many of its key organisers were preparing to make a break. The officers of Hull BNP has been the first to declare themselves as ‘Independent Nationalists’ but we expect others to follow shortly.

The move to support rival candidates will also be music to the ears of Nick Griffin. Whilst he must recognise that the party will suffer in May’s local elections in Yorkshire, and that he is likely to lose the vast majority of the region, he will also know that in the all-important London and European elections, both contested under PR, the internal problems within the BNP is unlikely to affect their vote.

He must also know that any move to support candidates against the BNP will immediately lead to expulsions.

The rebels, now operating under the banner Voice of Change, plan to hold a conference in the East Midlands on Sunday 27 January. Much will become clearer at this event but it is now already evident that the rebels have given up on wrestling control of the BNP away from Griffin and the split has occurred.
The BNP has split!

Oh dear, a UKIPer using a Marxist website, well I suppose you do have to get clearance of searchlight who can be a member of UKIP.

Over 250 activists, 100,000 leaflets delivered over the weekend in London by the BNP.
Remind me again, how many leaflets have UKIP put out for the London elections so far?

I see UKIP's sister site which you are using for such reliable information on the BNP is asking for money:

''Donate to LUAF!''

I mean they do need it, after all being a bunch of drug taking, work shy, benefits scrounging class warriors is not cheap.
What lovely company UKIP keep.

blueblood1920 · 21-01-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RTSTN

Oh dear, a UKIPer using a Marxist website, well I suppose you do have to get clearance of searchlight who can be a member of UKIP.

Over 250 activists, 100,000 leaflets delivered over the weekend in London by the BNP.
Remind me again, how many leaflets have UKIP put out for the London elections so far?

I see UKIP's sister site which you are using for such reliable information on the BNP is asking for money:

''Donate to LUAF!''

I mean they do need it, after all being a bunch of drug taking, work shy, benefits scrounging class warriors is not cheap.
What lovely company UKIP keep.

Well said, if a split in the BNP results in 250 people putting out 100,000 leaflets in London then UKIP must be dead and buried.

Will you be supportings Pete Doperty next? The people you are using for your 'information' support drug users who also inject others with drugs. Filthy scum.

For_England · 21-01-2008, 11:40 PM

old news - and the new website wasn't put up 'a few hours ago'. Basicly you don't know what you're talking about and you come across like you think you have some scoop. Pretty pathetic. And there has been no official split or break yet.

Westcountryman · 21-01-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by For_England

old news - and the new website wasn't put up 'a few hours ago'. Basicly you don't know what you're talking about and you come across like you think you have some scoop. Pretty pathetic. And there has been no official split or break yet.

I would submit that it is the BNP and their ilk that are pathetic.

For_England · 22-01-2008, 12:02 AM

coming from you, that is totally meaningless. You're asleep while the country heads towards oblivion. Why should your opinion mean anything?

Westcountryman · 22-01-2008, 12:06 AM

Oh yes, I forgot, the BNP enjoys massive public support...

oh wait, no it doesn't.

For_England · 22-01-2008, 12:08 AM

says UKIP Cornwall.

Westcountryman · 22-01-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by For_England

says UKIP Cornwall.

Doesn't take long to figure out which Party is more electorally successful.

Tell me, how many MEPs does the BNP have in the South West, or anywhere else in the UK for that matter?

21-01-2008, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
brad12jy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 594	The BNP has split! The long awaited split within the British National Party has finally happened. Despite the rebels insisting that their priority was to remain within the party and campaign for the removal of Nick Griffin as leader it now appears that they are making a real break by standing candidates against the BNP. A few hours ago the rebels launched their Voice of Change website. Hardly the most inspiring site it nevertheless signals a change in tactics. Whilst it continues to claim that they will challenge Griffin in a leadership election in June it is clear that none of the nine sacked party officers believe that a) they will be reinstated and b) that they would stand a chance in any leadership election given that Griffin himself is allowed to decide on the election rules which in last year’s contest included the banning of any campaigning! Instead, the website makes it clear that they are prepared to stand against Griffin’s BNP. “Voice of Change is an umbrella group to assist candidates who wish to stand as independent nationalists in the local elections in May 2008 and in any local by-elections throughout the year.” This will badly affect the BNP in Yorkshire, the East Midlands, Scotland and Greater Manchester. In Yorkshire, which has been their most powerful region within the party for some time, there appears only one or two branches which remain loyal to the current leadership. Support for the rebellion is fairly solid across Scotland, though this is a far less important region for the party electorally. The strong East Midlands region will also be affected. While the region is split over support for the rebellion the loss of many of its key organisers, such as Sadie Graham and Wayne McDermott, the region’s competent election organiser, will be a severe blow to BNP in the short term. The rebels were left with little option but to begin the move towards a separate party. Since announcing their decision to challenge Griffin’s leadership a week ago it is clear that many of their supporters recognised the futility in all this. Over the last 48 hours Searchlight received information from within Yorkshire BNP that many of its key organisers were preparing to make a break. The officers of Hull BNP has been the first to declare themselves as ‘Independent Nationalists’ but we expect others to follow shortly. The move to support rival candidates will also be music to the ears of Nick Griffin. Whilst he must recognise that the party will suffer in May’s local elections in Yorkshire, and that he is likely to lose the vast majority of the region, he will also know that in the all-important London and European elections, both contested under PR, the internal problems within the BNP is unlikely to affect their vote. He must also know that any move to support candidates against the BNP will immediately lead to expulsions. The rebels, now operating under the banner Voice of Change, plan to hold a conference in the East Midlands on Sunday 27 January. Much will become clearer at this event but it is now already evident that the rebels have given up on wrestling control of the BNP away from Griffin and the split has occurred. The BNP has split! __________________ My ignore list - Tony Bennett

22-01-2008, 12:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	Oh yes, I forgot, the BNP enjoys massive public support... oh wait, no it doesn't. __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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21-01-2008, 11:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vortex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 872 Party: BNP	You have regurgitated a link from a so called anti-fascist blog which in turn has cut and pasted it from Searchlight. Therefore, although there may be a ring of truth in it it will be massively overestimated and full of half truths and outright lies.

21-01-2008, 11:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,689	old news - and the new website wasn't put up 'a few hours ago'. Basicly you don't know what you're talking about and you come across like you think you have some scoop. Pretty pathetic. And there has been no official split or break yet.

22-01-2008, 12:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,689	coming from you, that is totally meaningless. You're asleep while the country heads towards oblivion. Why should your opinion mean anything?

22-01-2008, 12:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,689	says UKIP Cornwall.