Hunter

Could refer to half the major cities in Britain.

Fog on the Tyne

Since you are banging on about Andrew Spence.

The North East BNP ran the best parliamentary by-election campaign ever. People voted for the party as Spence’s personal vote would only be around 200 to 300 votes as proven with the UKIP Sedgefield recent results.

The UKIP vote only dropped a few hundred without Spence in 2005 and dropped again in 2007.

Either of the other two BNP candidates up for final selection would have achieved the same result or even better with this level of campaign, as a lot of farmers canvassed said they would not vote for the fuel protester as it affected their business while he was running round in bio diesel. However, he was quite well known. Had Brown not bottled a GE we would have had good factual comparison in the results.

With hindsight choosing either of the other two loyal local party members would have been the best choice. This excellent result was the collective efforts of the many unsung heroes who turn up, week in, week out - trying to make a difference.

The tiny episode, which the now resigned Spence had already admitted responsibility and apologised to the local BNP members is history and has been overplayed and milked for what is worth. It certainly did not have the ‘Kilroy effect’ like when Kilroy left UKIP.

By the way I liked Andrew Spence and got on well with him.

The Guvnah

Down the road a bit, Coventry. Yeah yeah alright! don't laugh

For_England

Yet another Griffin stooge. No-one was 'banging on' about Spence, though it's convenient for you to pretend so. I thought we were talking about how the present leadership can't retain good people. When you wake up and realise that people aren't going to vote for a dictator, let me know. Until then, I have nothing more to say to you and your ilk, who are selling the country down the river, willingly or not, by keeping nationalism unelectable. You think we have time for another ten or twenty years of these games - by which time even you will have seen the light?

libertyboy

With regard to the BNP it seems we can openly discuss being members on here- I got a bulletin from these Enough is Enough people. They must have the membership lists. hrmm. I've viewed their site but there isn't enough about their ideological aims apart from hints about "decades of anti-Semitic and Neo-Nazi baggage the Party cannot afford to carry if it aims to be a serious political party". Which is right enough- why for instance when we're looking to move forward has an ex combat 18 man been posted to head Yorkshire our best region??? but the trouble is for the rebels in spite of their progressive aims they could still become a storking horse for the fascistic fringe who oppose Griffin as a sell out. Of course if the rebels could genuinely refashion the party- you would have lift off surely. I think it must be obvious that the party isn't thriving as it could do- considering it is surely better supported although with less money and media connections, than UKIP yet has only somewhat half UKIP's signed up membership and a tendency to a disappointing calibre of councillors. Although I do think the party has a much bigger potential support base than UKIP which is really only targeted in my view at the little Englander foxhunting types who basically will always return to the Tories if whenever push comes to shove.

22ANDUK

To be honest guys, to the great public, I don't think all this party business bothers them. I'm not a supporter of the BNP, and have never voted for them, so as an outsider I don't see all this as any different to the other parties.

People who I have spoken to and said they support or might support the party will probably vote in the local elections and London Assembly for them as they'll probably identify with them more than the others. All parties bicker and in-fight, LibDems did unde Campbell, as did Brown and Blair in Labour. Certainly with the way things are going with affairs and issues at the moment the BNP can grab 5 - 10% of the vote (not sure if that would be enough to greab a LA seat though?). The bickering and in-fighting however would probably ensure that the party does not become the nations 3rd/4th party though.

For_England

22anduk - I accept your point to a degree, but I think that Griffin has been an impedient to having good organisation and activism at the local level, so that even though it might not be noticed, he is still effecting the vote due to the support of incompetent local organisers (Simon Darby etc), poor use of funds (Mark Collett on full-time pay etc) and so on. And I think there are a chunk of people out there that just don't trust and would not vote for Griffin.

22ANDUK

I'm surprised that more of you BNPers don't want the 'Ballerining Couple' in charge!

Populist Lee

A lot of them do!

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