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Old 12-12-2007, 08:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It is very likely that all of the anti EU parties/organisations will gradually begin to fall apart if the Reform Treaty, once fully implemented, does effectively remove any realistic chance of the UK getting out of Europe as many respected commentators believe.

What's the use of spending valuable time and hard earned money on a lost cause? Not only this, with the EU making more and more of the important laws - what chance is there of individual parties ever achieving any of their treasured initiatives?
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If anyone thinks UKIP will benefit, I humbly suggest they need their head examined.


I 100% am behind Sadie Graham and Kenny Smith. This latest escapade should make it obvious to everyone that the current BNP leadership are beyond redemption. This will give nationalism (not UKIP passportism) the chance it needs to get its act together before it is too late.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If anyone thinks UKIP will benefit, I humbly suggest they need their head examined.


I 100% am behind Sadie Graham and Kenny Smith. This latest escapade should make it obvious to everyone that the current BNP leadership are beyond redemption. This will give nationalism (not UKIP passportism) the chance it needs to get its act together before it is too late.
Do you know what their plans are?

Am I premature with -
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Do you know what their plans are?

Am I premature with -
Unfortunately they just declared that they are not interested in starting a new party, but in reforming the BNP. I doubt there is ANY chance of that though, so they might be forced to. I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Alot of people are never going to trust Griffin again though, and are calling for his resignation.
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Unfortunately they just declared that they are not interested in starting a new party, but in reforming the BNP. I doubt there is ANY chance of that though, so they might be forced to. I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Alot of people are never going to trust Griffin again though, and are calling for his resignation.
Whilst he is leader there is little chance of gaining mass appeal. If the more moderates have joined together - they would probably be more successful with a new party name.
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They'll never get "RealBNP" past the Electoral Commission.

Not without the permission of the Chairman and the Treasurer of the [real] BNP, that is.
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The brand is already there though for the party.

Tories have changed every single one of their proposals since May here and the smarmy Labour lot are ******* me off on the radio.

Best that can be done at the moment is many independent nationalist candidates standing and when there's 200+ of us at district level, sort something out. At the end of the day, in both UKIP and BNP, the hard work is done at local level by the candidates, there currently is no need for this higher level stuff. As long as your leaflets know what you stand for then there is no issue. I know many Lib-Dim councillors who are only in that party for the grass roots stuff and the lack of alternative parties and can't stick any of the leadership or their policies. You're not really getting Lib-Dem policies from these people.
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From the links provided, I see that the entire committee of the British National Party in Scotland have resigned. If the Scottish BNP breaks away, do you think it will re-name itself the Scottish National Party?
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So much for the future of the BNP.
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Unfortunately they just declared that they are not interested in starting a new party, but in reforming the BNP. I doubt there is ANY chance of that though, so they might be forced to. I guess we'll all have to wait and see. Alot of people are never going to trust Griffin again though, and are calling for his resignation.
The latest victims of Griffin's tyranny and paranoia could certainly play a central role in a realignment of the patriotic right. They should leave Griffin with the mad bomber and the black hole in the balance sheet which the auditors decline to cover up, and join with the many people of good will who find the BNP sleazy and repulsive, while UKIP is bland and insipid.

PC Dave has created a huge space to the right of the Tory party. It's time to fill it!
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