National Front's only councillor defects..

ANGLO-STAFFS · 01-09-2007, 09:27 PM

..to the BNP. Simon Deacon was “elected unopposed” to Markyate Parish Council in May. One of many right-wingers who became councillors because there were not enough candidates to merit an election. Markyate is within Dacorum District in Hertfordshire. A bit careless of the National Front to loose 100% of their councillors in one go. For Deacon, a bit like jumping from a cowpat to a sewer.

SuperiorSteve · 01-09-2007, 09:51 PM

lmao I thought the NF merged with the BNP?

RTSTN · 01-09-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

..to the BNP. Simon Deacon was “elected unopposed” to Markyate Parish Council in May. One of many right-wingers who became councillors because there were not enough candidates to merit an election. Markyate is within Dacorum District in Hertfordshire. A bit careless of the National Front to loose 100% of their councillors in one go. For Deacon, a bit like jumping from a cowpat to a sewer.

Well at least he did not go over to UKIP, now that would be like jumping from the pointless to the clueless.

ANGLO-STAFFS · 01-09-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperiorSteve

lmao I thought the NF merged with the BNP?

I think they just submerged into something.

Populist Lee · 01-09-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

..to the BNP. Simon Deacon was “elected unopposed” to Markyate Parish Council in May. One of many right-wingers who became councillors because there were not enough candidates to merit an election. Markyate is within Dacorum District in Hertfordshire. A bit careless of the National Front to loose 100% of their councillors in one go. For Deacon, a bit like jumping from a cowpat to a sewer.

Careless to lose a councillor?
Ha, that's nothing.
It seems they have been careless enough to have been de-registered as a political party.

I wonder if the defection has anything to do with that.

Independent UKIP · 02-09-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Populist Lee

Careless to lose a councillor?
Ha, that's nothing.
It seems they have been careless enough to have been de-registered as a political party.

I wonder if the defection has anything to do with that.

Didn't know that so feel free to tell us more if you care to share, thanks. They were the no.2 extreme right party were they not so that is something major unless there is the simple matter of re-registering for them to carry on where they left off.

ANGLO-STAFFS · 02-09-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

Didn't know that so feel free to tell us more if you care to share, thanks. They were the no.2 extreme right party were they not so that is something major unless there is the simple matter of re-registering for them to carry on where they left off.

Just checked on Wikipedia and they were removed from the register of political parties on 15/08/2007. Don't know how easy it is to get back on.

IndependentObserver · 02-09-2007, 09:47 AM

The NF did not merge with the BNP in 1999. Around that time (a year or two earlier I think) the National Democrats split into two - with one part joining the BNP and the other part basically dissolving, although their newspaper, The Flag, continued under the editorship of Ian Anderson and is often recommended by posters on this forum. The National Democrats were formerly a faction of the National Front (which fractured into many parts in the late 80s and early 90s - at times it is questionable whether there was an actual National Front in existence), and used the name National Front into the early 90s.

Although the NF put up a few candidates at election time, its questionable whether they were the No.2 extreme right party in terms of activity - there are various other contenders; the Freedom Party had a councillor elected until she decided to retire, the British People's Party produces more in terms of publications (complete trash but it appears reasonably regularly), even the November 9th Society held a few protest gatherings.

Populist Lee · 02-09-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

Didn't know that so feel free to tell us more if you care to share, thanks. They were the no.2 extreme right party were they not so that is something major unless there is the simple matter of re-registering for them to carry on where they left off.

Echoing Independent Observer . . .
The BNP are so much larger than any of the other "extreme right" parties, that talking in terms of which is No 2? is a moot point.

Nevertheless, the name "National Front" has a particular cachet that has echoed on the fringes of British politics for the past 40 years.

What has happened?
As far as I understand the situation, the *sin* has been one of omission than commission.
The NF appear to have been the first party to have fallen prey to the strengthened Electoral Administrations Act, 2006.

I think I mentioned on this board in one of my glib one liners at the start of this year that parties like UKIP - who may be late in submitting their obligatory paperwork to the EC - should be aware of a nasty sting buried within the EAA.

The gist of this is that every party has to [re]register with the EC annually, and within a specified deadline. The registration form being accompanied by a £25 fee. Until the Enactment of the EAA, late submitters were dealt with at the EC's own discretion: Fine; ticking off; accepting the excuse; or worst of all, "de-registration".

As of the EAA, the EC has been deprived of this "discretion".
De-registration is now automatic.

The National Front did not return their Registration Form within the specified deadline.
Why? I do not know.

And like Anglo-Staffs, I do not know how easy it is to get back on. I'll try to find out.
I didn't think a party would be dopey enough to fail to send in their form.

IndependentObserver · 02-09-2007, 07:08 PM

I presume its quite easy to reregister. I looked at the NF's statement of accounts one year - in fact all it consisted of was a photostat of a bank account (with about £200 in it). I think NF candidates fund their own election campaigns, and there is basically no central administration at all.

On another forum, it states the NF appears to have abandoned some of its websites, and it appears to be in administrative paralysis. It doesn't really have a recognized leader - it is supposed to be someone called Tom Holmes, but I believe he is quite elderly. I've also heard the name Terry Blackham, who is younger (but I've no idea how old) mentioned in the past.

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02-09-2007, 09:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
IndependentObserver Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 54	The NF did not merge with the BNP in 1999. Around that time (a year or two earlier I think) the National Democrats split into two - with one part joining the BNP and the other part basically dissolving, although their newspaper, The Flag, continued under the editorship of Ian Anderson and is often recommended by posters on this forum. The National Democrats were formerly a faction of the National Front (which fractured into many parts in the late 80s and early 90s - at times it is questionable whether there was an actual National Front in existence), and used the name National Front into the early 90s. Although the NF put up a few candidates at election time, its questionable whether they were the No.2 extreme right party in terms of activity - there are various other contenders; the Freedom Party had a councillor elected until she decided to retire, the British People's Party produces more in terms of publications (complete trash but it appears reasonably regularly), even the November 9th Society held a few protest gatherings.

02-09-2007, 07:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
IndependentObserver Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 54	I presume its quite easy to reregister. I looked at the NF's statement of accounts one year - in fact all it consisted of was a photostat of a bank account (with about £200 in it). I think NF candidates fund their own election campaigns, and there is basically no central administration at all. On another forum, it states the NF appears to have abandoned some of its websites, and it appears to be in administrative paralysis. It doesn't really have a recognized leader - it is supposed to be someone called Tom Holmes, but I believe he is quite elderly. I've also heard the name Terry Blackham, who is younger (but I've no idea how old) mentioned in the past.