Sport of kings

John Welch · 04-08-2007, 03:19 AM

Reality is what we choose it to be, and so for infants the figure of Santa Claus is the real person of that function. We know what William the Conqueror was in his illiterate, barbaric organised crime-gang, but the word "royal" changes his DNA into a slightly more nuclear-fusion glow. Russian royals who drove taxis lost it, but Putin has gained it, for now. HRH Prince William gains and loses it from year to year. Greeks had Athena as goddess-statue, so wouldn't it be cheaper to have a wax-effigy Britannia suitably enshrined and brought out as Head of State for symbolic acts?

cassie · 04-08-2007, 07:15 AM

You are very cynical for one so young!

John Welch · 04-08-2007, 09:07 AM

The Greeks were cynical? There have been many royal houses, but 1 Britain of Brittania.

cassie · 04-08-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by John Welch

The Greeks were cynical? There have been many royal houses, but 1 Britain of Brittania.

There are very many Scots who would not subscribe to that latter view!

John Welch · 04-08-2007, 10:10 AM

"Anne has the peculiar distinction of having been Queen of England and of Scotland until 1707 and of Great Britain thereafter."
The Scottish National Party states that it is at present in Britain. Even if separate, they would observe the historic fact of 1 Britain and Britannia.
Please explain...

cassie · 04-08-2007, 10:26 AM

Prejudices do not have to be rational or logical even.

Anyway, I thought this thread was about symbols, whether in human form or wax effigies?

John Welch · 04-08-2007, 09:57 PM

The first king of Dalriada-Pictland had a son who married the British heiress of Strathclyde, forming Scotland.
(quote)wikipedia." By 50 BC Greek geographers were using equivalents of Prettanikē as a group name for the islands.[13][14] However, with the Roman conquest of Britain the Latin term Britannia was used for the island of Great Britain.
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Parthenius "Love Stories" 2.30.
XXX. THE STORY OF CELTINE
Hercules, it is told, after he had taken the kine of Geryones89 (of Spain) from Erythea, was wandering through the country of the Celts and came to the house of Bretannus, who had a daughter called Celtine. Celtine fell in love with Hercules and hid away the kine, refusing to give them back to him unless he would first content her. Hercules was indeed very anxious to bring the kine safe home, but he was far more struck by the girl’s exceeding beauty, and consented to her wishes; and then, when the time had come round, a son called Celtus was born to them, from whom the Celtic race derived their name."(end quote).
This connects the land with the imagery of Greek Athena, Roman Minerva and Brittania mother of Keltos who pulled the archery bow of Herakles._ Etymol. Magnum. 502 Diodorus 5.24. Britain is the stronghold of the language group and legends which reached from Eire to Asia Minor.

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John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	Sport of kings Reality is what we choose it to be, and so for infants the figure of Santa Claus is the real person of that function. We know what William the Conqueror was in his illiterate, barbaric organised crime-gang, but the word "royal" changes his DNA into a slightly more nuclear-fusion glow. Russian royals who drove taxis lost it, but Putin has gained it, for now. HRH Prince William gains and loses it from year to year. Greeks had Athena as goddess-statue, so wouldn't it be cheaper to have a wax-effigy Britannia suitably enshrined and brought out as Head of State for symbolic acts?

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04-08-2007, 07:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,644	You are very cynical for one so young!

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John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	The Greeks were cynical? There have been many royal houses, but 1 Britain of Brittania.

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John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	"Anne has the peculiar distinction of having been Queen of England and of Scotland until 1707 and of Great Britain thereafter." The Scottish National Party states that it is at present in Britain. Even if separate, they would observe the historic fact of 1 Britain and Britannia. Please explain...

04-08-2007, 10:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,644	Prejudices do not have to be rational or logical even. Anyway, I thought this thread was about symbols, whether in human form or wax effigies?

04-08-2007, 09:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	The first king of Dalriada-Pictland had a son who married the British heiress of Strathclyde, forming Scotland. (quote)wikipedia." By 50 BC Greek geographers were using equivalents of Prettanikē as a group name for the islands.[13][14] However, with the Roman conquest of Britain the Latin term Britannia was used for the island of Great Britain. ........................................... Parthenius "Love Stories" 2.30. XXX. THE STORY OF CELTINE Hercules, it is told, after he had taken the kine of Geryones89 (of Spain) from Erythea, was wandering through the country of the Celts and came to the house of Bretannus, who had a daughter called Celtine. Celtine fell in love with Hercules and hid away the kine, refusing to give them back to him unless he would first content her. Hercules was indeed very anxious to bring the kine safe home, but he was far more struck by the girl’s exceeding beauty, and consented to her wishes; and then, when the time had come round, a son called Celtus was born to them, from whom the Celtic race derived their name."(end quote). This connects the land with the imagery of Greek Athena, Roman Minerva and Brittania mother of Keltos who pulled the archery bow of Herakles._ Etymol. Magnum. 502 Diodorus 5.24. Britain is the stronghold of the language group and legends which reached from Eire to Asia Minor.