The Destruction of Local Councils in England

Westcountryman · 31-07-2007, 03:02 PM

Is everyone familiar with these new 'unitary authorities' that the government is setting up across England?

It was recently confirmed that Cornwall was to get a unitary authority, despite massive local opposition.

From UKIP Cornwall:

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UKIP, the UK Independence Party, is the only party in the UK which is telling the truth about the danger of Britain’s further involvement in the unelected, undemocratic European Union, and EU government of our country, in site of the already declared opposition of the people of the UK.
UKIP Cornwall, has, from the beginning, been in the forefront of the battle to prevent our County being sold out to the EU via the scullery door (EU Regional government) and has undoubtedly been highly influential in galvanising many other groups and parties into action.
The current battle in Cornwall, is to prevent the Liberal Democrat dominated County Council from bulldozing our people into a “unitary authority”, which the majority believe would be detrimental to our pockets, our quality of life, and our democratic rights.

Four district councils, Penwith, Kerrier, Carrick and Caradon have taken the battle into the enemy’s camp, with a poll, initially refused by the County Council, which has revealed a huge majority (over 80%) in opposition to the proposal.
71,722 residents voted in the district council poll with a total of 58,087 opposed to the unitary proposal. Only 13,281 were in favour.

In Caradon District Council result was: – 81.2% opposed
In Carrick the District Council result was:- 75.5% opposed
In Kerrier the District Council result was:- 78.9% opposed
And in Penwith the District Council result was:- 88.8% opposed.

In addition, North Cornwall District Council surveyed 6,000 residents where the result was 82% in opposition to a unitary authority.
Restormel Borough Council is also opposed to a unitary authority.

For the UKIP, all the Cornwall branch chairmen, led by the Cornwall Committee Chairman, Jeff Mager, have regularly made it publicly clear, that the UKIP totally opposes the Liberal Democrat dominated County Council’s bid to remove democratic government further from the people of our county, and demands that they allow local democracy to prevail.

However, we must guard against the probability that Ruth Kelly will attempt to override the Will of the People of Cornwall, and try to proceed in the face of the declared resistance, when one of the criteria she has laid down, is the support of local people.
The County and District Councils must now work together with the local communities to restore true democratic government, at district, as well as county level, which will allow people to govern their own communities.

JEFF MAGER – (Cornwall Committee Chairman)
TESS NASH (Chairman – UKIP – St Ives and the Isles of Scilly)
DAVE PARKER (Chairman – UKIP – Falmouth & Camborne)
IAN PROCTOR (Chairman – UKIP – Truro & St Austell)
R B M BUDGE (Chairman – UKIP – North Cornwall)
JOHN BASS (Chairman – UKIP – South East Cornwall)

The new unitary authority will be up and running by 2009. The district councils are popular as they do a good job and stick within budget - whereas the County Council is unpopular and wastes money. It's the only council in the Country (to my knowledge) that has proposed scrapping 24 hour fire cover for example.

Needless to say, the wishes of the people are being ignored by the County council and the government. The local MPs are all for it. I think this might have something to do with them all being LDs and the County Council being LD controlled whereas the LDs recently lost control of a lot of district councils - such as Carrick - where UKIP got a Councillor in the last local elections.

Did you ever feel like you were fighting a losing battle?

Little Englander (sour) · 31-07-2007, 03:09 PM

Where the bloody hell have you been for the last 6 years:
Regional Asemblies
Regional Development Agencies
Regional Hospitals
Regional Emergency control centres
regional ambulance centres
Unitary councils are RAs by another name with "elected" members.
Wake up FFS

Westcountryman · 31-07-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Englander (sour)

Where the bloody hell have you been for the last 6 years:

Regional Asemblies

No longer around.

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Regional Development Agencies

Yep, hate these, but they're run by EU money, not my council tax. They're not the same thing.

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Regional Hospitals

Can't say I've heard of these. What are they, mega-hospitals?

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Regional Emergency control centres

Dislike these too.

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regional ambulance centres

Ambulance stations all over here, not 'regional' ones.

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Unitary councils are RAs by another name with "elected" members.

Are they really? I take it more as centralisation of power by amalgamating existing layers of governance.

C_steam · 31-07-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

Yep, hate these, but they're run by EU money, not my council tax. They're not the same thing. .

Nope. Funding for the RDA's is not solely European Money (which is ours anyway!)

Westcountryman · 31-07-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

Nope. Funding for the RDA's is not solely European Money (which is ours anyway!)

Well it doesn't come from my Council tax, or if it does, then my Council are lying about where it goes. RE: The funding - agree that it's our money, and of course I would prefer they were gone - preferably by yesterday.

C_steam · 31-07-2007, 07:48 PM

Just because they don't have a friggin big signpost saying "This is your money" doesn't mean it isn't.

Where do you think it comes from? It's all from the taxpayer, directly or indirectly.

see the annual report:-
http://download.southwestrda.org.uk/.../general/SWRDA Annual Report and Financial Statements 2005 - 06.pdf

Westcountryman · 31-07-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

Just because they don't have a friggin big signpost saying "This is your money" doesn't mean it isn't.

Where do you think it comes from? It's all from the taxpayer, directly or indirectly.

see the annual report:-
http://download.southwestrda.org.uk/.../general/SWRDA Annual Report and Financial Statements 2005 - 06.pdf

Of course

. I was just saying that it's not from Council tax, WHEREAS UNITARY AUTHORITIES ARE.

g hall · 31-07-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

Of course

. I was just saying that it's not from Council tax, WHEREAS UNITARY AUTHORITIES ARE.

There are lots of other Taxes available courtesy of Gordon the Moron and his tory predecessor Cuddly Ken Clarke

Little Englander (sour) · 31-07-2007, 10:43 PM

ModernUkip:

Regional Assemblies are to be scrapped in 2009 which means they ARE still around, in 2009 powers will be transfered to DAs

All ambulances in the Hampshire area are now based in Winchester.

What the FF do you think a Meg-hospital is then?

The EU, just like the UK government, do not have any money - Its all ours (the tax payer)

Like I said - where have you been for the last 6 years?

Westcountryman · 31-07-2007, 11:02 PM

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Regional Assemblies are to be scrapped in 2009 which means they ARE still around, in 2009 powers will be transfered to DAs

Yes, but RAs are still on the way out.

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All ambulances in the Hampshire area are now based in Winchester.

That's nice for Hampshire, it's not the case here.

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What the FF do you think a Meg-hospital is then?

I have no idea, hence I asked. No such thing here.

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The EU, just like the UK government, do not have any money - Its all ours (the tax payer)

True to a point, but you'll still end up in jail for not paying it.

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31-07-2007, 03:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Little Englander (sour) Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 949 Party: English Democrats	Where the bloody hell have you been for the last 6 years: Regional Asemblies Regional Development Agencies Regional Hospitals Regional Emergency control centres regional ambulance centres Unitary councils are RAs by another name with "elected" members. Wake up FFS

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Little Englander (sour) Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 949 Party: English Democrats	ModernUkip: Regional Assemblies are to be scrapped in 2009 which means they ARE still around, in 2009 powers will be transfered to DAs All ambulances in the Hampshire area are now based in Winchester. What the FF do you think a Meg-hospital is then? The EU, just like the UK government, do not have any money - Its all ours (the tax payer) Like I said - where have you been for the last 6 years?