TonyG

I have to admit to being stunned by your volte face though, after all the discussions over the last few weeks and your unswerving devotion to them...

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For_England

The UK needs quick action, and I thought enough good people were in it to help change its face. Besides that, there simply isn't enough time for anything else, and we need to work with what we have. But if they are going to treat higher calibre people like that - then the reality is now that they will never be elected. I had read on their website that Griffin was planning at the right time to hand over to someone without the baggage. But I don't think anyone will last long enough because he gets paranoid and sets his C.U.N.T. scumbags after them.

TonyG

I agree totally that the country needs quick action, but the reality is that the only way that is going to happen is if the Tories experience a revelation and change tack. Neither UKIP nor the BNP are going to be in a position to pose a threat to the status quo in the next few years, the most they could hope for would be to rattle a cage or two.
As for Griffin, leopards don't change their spots, he is going to be very happy running his gang as that is the best he could ever hope for.
It would be good to see you putting your mind to sharpening up UKIP's policies - only problem there though is that it also will require a change of leader!

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RTSTN

I wonder if you were really a BNP supporter, your knowledge of them seems a little suspect.

How about joining Veritas?

For_England

since I don't live in the UK, my knowledge has never been first hand. However I have read just about everything on their website, as well as some pro and anti Griffin blogs, and the UAF website. Their policies appeal to me, and I thought that they were making serious changes. With the country facing such eminent threats, my belief was that if there were problems, that nevertheless dealing with the BNP and seeking to reform it from within are far preferable to allowing the country to descend into European dictatorship, political correct totalitarianism, ethnic civil war and/or Islamic revolution. So why didn't I see this before? I have known that there are some problem people (one has only to look at Collett to wonder what on earth is going through Griffin's mind - is that the kind of image he wants to project?). I have been doing alot of research into C.U.N.T and Bowden's demise over the last few days, and do not think I can ignore the fact that Griffin surrounds himself with thugs - but I was never able to get this info until I searched via Bowden's name - and I've always stayed well clear of Stormfront. But even now, if I thought the BNP could win with the rotten and corrupt leadership it has, I would hope they would win, because it would be better than the above scenarios, and would give us a chance of survival as a seperate and indigenous people group. However I didn't factor in the expulsion of Bowden and Spence - two of the best among them, and two people I thought were indicative of the direction the party was going in. Without people like that, I have to conclude that the BNP don't have a chance of dropping their image, and no matter how good (or bad) their policies are, they will never win power. And so they are now simply a roadblock to real progress. However UKIP and Veritas are not an issue. I thought of joining UKIP years ago, but decided that it would be like fighting over who is captain on a sinking ship. Others don't all share the same view as me, but I don't believe England will be England unless the English are the majority population, and the BNP are the only major small party that would deal with this issue with a resettlement programme. The Tories should have listened to Powell, but it's too late for that now. The only way out of this mess is going to be through a new party - I'm convinced of that. And with over half of the electorate not even voting for Labour or Conservative, I think there is great potential for such a party, tough and manly yet devoid of the baggage of the far right scumbags.