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For_England · 27-07-2007, 09:20 PM

Having a ballerina 'exposed' as a member certainly didn't hurt them.

mkpdavies · 27-07-2007, 09:22 PM

If the BNP didn't exist, this country would probably be out of the EU and on the road to recovery by now. Your grubby little band of neo Nazis were a Godsend for the establishment. You have provided them a stick to beat true patriots for years.

If you hadn't have existed, they probably would have invented you.

My hatred of the BNP is anything but blind. Your party is an aberration
in politics and the more I learn, the more I despise your band of liars, racists, thugs, hitler worshipers, authortarians, terrorists and I could go on.

The fact you have soiled the British flag with your name shames it. You are the silver bullet of the left, which is ironic seing that you are the authoritarian, racist left.

For_England · 27-07-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the BNP didn't exist, this country would probably be out of the EU and on the road to recovery by now.

I have to agree with this - if the BNP didn't exist, a new party would have to have been created to fill that gap. I couldn't agree more, and I wish it had happened like that - a party without the baggage. However, that isn't what happened, and so with demographic disaster looming, I think the most patriotic thing for one to do is to support the only party with a policy of voluntary resettlement, and help to reshape it from within (which I'm not in a position to do, since I don't even reside in the UK). Give it five years and perhaps there will be a new leader (Andrew Spence doesn't have the baggage). Is there any other option, other than getting all bitter and bent out of shape while the ship of our nation sinks to the bottom of the sea?

For_England · 27-07-2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

the more I learn, the more I despise your band of liars, racists, thugs, hitler worshipers, authortarians, terrorists and I could go on.

Yes. And some documentation would be nice, because as far as I was aware, Nick Griffin took the reins of power and got most of those types ejected from the party. At the recent election, only ten percent voted for the old-guard. Still, I think it is urgent that the BNP does more, and I have written to them and told them time and again - a new name, a new logo (not one that evokes images - in me at least - of doc martins and soccer hooligans), a new leader without the past. The charge of authoritarianism seems somewhat unfair though - is it not the case that they defend the traditional British legal system in thoughtful articles on their website? Is it not true that they want a Bill of Rights, decentralisation of power into local authority hands, and citizen-initiated referenda? Is it not also true that their protectionist policies are no different from those of most Conservatives until Thatcherism?

RTSTN · 28-07-2007, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the BNP didn't exist, this country would probably be out of the EU

Bloody hell!

The BNP is to blame for Britain being in the EU!

Er, okay.

mkpdavies · 28-07-2007, 08:40 AM

It's a big part of it. Intentional or not.

For_England · 28-07-2007, 01:16 PM

I cannot see your reasoning on that; The BNP didn't even start making any dents in the electoral process until just two or three years ago.

British Dissident · 28-07-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If the BNP didn't exist, this country would probably be out of the EU and on the road to recovery by now.

I fear your bigotry towards the BNP is making you lose touch with reality.

The main reason the establishment hasn't accelerated Britain's assimilation into a EU superstate is the threat of a patriotic backlash which would benefit nationalist organisations.

It's pretty much the same reason that politicians make cynical noises about controlling immigration when they haven't got the faintest intention of doing anything.

Independence Now! · 28-07-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bnpforme

Yes. And some documentation would be nice, because as far as I was aware, Nick Griffin took the reins of power and got most of those types ejected from the party. At the recent election, only ten percent voted for the old-guard. Still, I think it is urgent that the BNP does more, and I have written to them and told them time and again - a new name, a new logo (not one that evokes images - in me at least - of doc martins and soccer hooligans), a new leader without the past. The charge of authoritarianism seems somewhat unfair though - is it not the case that they defend the traditional British legal system in thoughtful articles on their website? Is it not true that they want a Bill of Rights, decentralisation of power into local authority hands, and citizen-initiated referenda? Is it not also true that their protectionist policies are no different from those of most Conservatives until Thatcherism?

Your last point is an important one. Many UKIP people believe that any form of protectionism automatically equals 'socialism'. It doesn't. If it did, then how comes Tory figures of the past such as Joseph Chamberlain and even Stanley Baldwin advocated it?

Mrs Thatcher's economics were basically the economics of 19th Century Manchester Liberals. She didn't care whether Britain retained any sort of British-owned industrial base. You don't have to be a 'socialist' to believe we Brits should own SOME parts of our economy!

John Doe · 28-07-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Mrs Thatcher's economics were basically the economics of 19th Century Manchester Liberals.

Yes, a bit more of that would be welcome.

27-07-2007, 09:22 PM	#22 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	If the BNP didn't exist, this country would probably be out of the EU and on the road to recovery by now. Your grubby little band of neo Nazis were a Godsend for the establishment. You have provided them a stick to beat true patriots for years. If you hadn't have existed, they probably would have invented you. My hatred of the BNP is anything but blind. Your party is an aberration in politics and the more I learn, the more I despise your band of liars, racists, thugs, hitler worshipers, authortarians, terrorists and I could go on. The fact you have soiled the British flag with your name shames it. You are the silver bullet of the left, which is ironic seing that you are the authoritarian, racist left. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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27-07-2007, 09:20 PM	#21 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,694	Having a ballerina 'exposed' as a member certainly didn't hurt them.

28-07-2007, 01:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,694	I cannot see your reasoning on that; The BNP didn't even start making any dents in the electoral process until just two or three years ago.